Jay

damn, some idiot ran amock in wikipedia. I just removed the objectionable parts from Wiki.

I'm not sure where the LTTE came in to this picture, relatively speaking SriLankan tamils are better off than the Indian origin plantation workers. Atleast they have one Anantha Krishnan.

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Jay

An angry Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badwai on Sunday offered to resign if it was proved that his country was engaged in an ethnic cleansing of its Indian minority.

At the same time, Abdullah admitted that people of Indian origin in Malaysia did face "social problems" but added that the authorities were with the community, Malaysian media reported.

Abdullah was reacting to the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) statement that the government was carrying out ethnic cleansing of the Indians in Malaysia.

He accused Hindraf of spreading "blatant lies" with a view to arouse hatred in the country and to spark racial clashes, The Star newspaper reported.

"The allegations are all lies to deceive the Indians that they are an exploited race.

"Malaysians will not believe this. Even the Malaysian Indians will not believe this. Ethnic cleansing is something (that) was done in Bosnia. We do not do it in this country...

"Tell me, do you believe there is ethnic cleansing in Malaysia? Is there ethnic cleansing, tell me? If I allow this, I would resign."

Then, looking at Indian media personnel, he asked: "Tell me, you are an Indian and so are you, have we been doing it for the past 50 years or even for that matter one week, have we done this?"

The Star quoted Abdullah as saying: "I'm really angry, I rarely get angry, but this blatant lie cannot be tolerated at all."

He offered to resign if there was proof that the government was involved in ethnic cleansing.

He said he did not want the people, especially the Indians, to be misled by Hindraf's "unfounded claims and allegations" and hoped that other races would not show sympathy towards Hindraf.

But despite his anger at the 20-minute press conference where he dealt mostly with the Hindraf issue, Abdullah pledged to look after the interests and the well being of the Indian community.

"The social problems faced by the Indian community are clear. I have never said no. We support the Indians but there are some quarters instigating them and making them feel unhappy with the government," he said.

Abdullah said the government had never marginalised the Indians. "I've helped them, I've helped them in many ways. They want money to repair their temples, I help because we respect other religions and they are not our enemies, they have cooperated very well with us, this is what has happened," he said.

Abdullah said the government had always given attention to requests made by Malaysian Indian Congress president S. Samy Vellu to improve the socio-economic status of the Indians, who form eight percent of the country's population.

"Be it to appoint senators or elected representatives, we give attention to and support all the requests," he said.

"The Indians have played their role. They have given strong support to the government and (the ruling) Barisan Nasional. They know we are just and fair.

"But sadly, some have been influenced by Hindraf and I hope they will evaluate Hindraf's statements carefully."

Abdullah said there was no truth to the claims in the Hindraf memorandum that a government-backed extremist group had destroyed a temple in Kampung Jawa, Klang, Nov 15.

He said that "lies" like this could cause racial conflict between the Malays and the Indians. "Is this what we are seeking in Malaysia, where there has been no problems between Muslims and Indians or Islam and Hinduism?"

"I do not want our country which is growing steadily and attracting foreign investors to be destroyed. We do not want the country to be in chaos by their actions," he said.

The Indian protests in Malaysia have found their echo in India, where the issue has been taken up in the national parliament and also in Tamil Nadu. Malaysian leaders have asked Indian politicians not to interfere in the country's internal affairs.

wajahat

if indians feel mistreated in malaysia ,they should go back to tamilnadu

anyways the percentage of ethnic indian population in malaysia has dropped to about 7% down from 12% a decade ago, so it makes all the mores sense for them to migrate

however if they still want to stay put then they should convert to islam in order to avoid discrimination

we all know that muslims of indian origin in malaysia are better off than their hindu counterparts

Tronic

Yes, wajahat, well said! Thank you for being honest and pointing out the hypocrisy of Islam; and I totally agree with you, Tolerance has no place where Islam dwells.

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Ray

They could, but then they would not understand India being Malaysians!

Converting to Islam is the whole stuff behind this Bhumiputra stuff.

Islam apparently puts pressure on the people so that in the end they convert to Islam.

If something is wonderful, people would convert willingly and no pressure would be required.

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Jay

They are not Indians, they are called Malaysian Indians
Thanks for proving the point, its exactly why millions of hindus and sikhs moved out of Pakistan and why the rest of J&K is against the valley.
Really? How do you know?

WhamBam

By this token, where should the Muslims go from India/Europe/USA if they feel mistreated?

Or from Pakistan/Turkey(Kurds)/Saudi(Shias).....

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Tronic

Whambham, The chap is long gone...

WhamBam

I know but I guess...

HE WILL BE BACK... (in another Avtar)

Ray

I found him interesting.

Jay

Malaysian court denies bail to 31 Indians
6 Dec 2007, 1826 hrs IST
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KUALA LUMPUR: A Malaysian court on Thursday refused to grant bail to 31 ethnic Indians charged with attempted murder of a policeman during a massive protest against alleged marginalisation here last month, saying the case involved "national security" and not "racial and religious issues".

Sessions Court Judge Azimah Omar said the court had taken into account the fact that public interest precedes the interests of all the accused.

"This case is not an ordinary case but involves the accused who are alleged to have participated in an illegal gathering and a gathering does not involve only the accused but also the general public."

"The gathering also involves national security and does not involve racial and religious issues and on these grounds, the court is not allowing bail for all the accused," the judge declared.

She also noted that bail could not be given as all of them were facing a charge under Section 307 of the Malaysian Penal Code, namely attempted murder, which is non-bailable except at the court's discretion.

Also refusing to entertain the bail application of three accused ethnic Indians on grounds of bad health, the judge said the defence had failed to furnish clear evidence.

One of the accused was said to have a kidney problem and required haemodialysis but the dialysis card submitted was not clear, while no medical records had been given to the court in respect of another accused who was said to be suffering from heart disease, national news agency Bernama quoted the judge as saying.

The judge said 18 pictures in the form of computer images that were submitted to the court on Wednesday as a ground for bail were not authenticated.

If convicted, the men face 20 years behind bars. All 31 have pleaded not guilty. Seventeen lawyers are representing the accused. However, three lawyers withdrew from the case without stating any reason.

At least 10,000 ethnic Indians took part in an "illegal" demonstration organised by NGO Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) on November 25 to protest against alleged marginalisation of Indians in Malaysia.

-TOI

I'm not sure WTF these guys are smoking. They used water and tar gas on the protesters, yet they arrested 31 protesters on attempted murders. Morons

das

I totally agree with the PM they can be no ethnic cleansing in malaysia like what happen in BOSNIA where the serbs directly killed the moselms.
Then it can take in a different form.In malaysia the goverment has introduce two judical system,the syariah court been upgraded on par with the civil court.All moslms are automatically under the syariah court jursdication.In this circumstance it is almost impossible to convert out of islam.Marriges between muslims and non muslim where the non muslim always converts to muslim for the marriage to take place.Many indians and chinese have become muslims in this way and also acquire bumiputra rights.What is even worse
children under 18 yrs also become moselms when one of the spouse convert to islam.Religion is a senstive subject to muslims in malaysia.The fact is that when more indians become muslim the indian population becomes even smaller.Is this a form of ethnic cleansing. I think maybe it can be a win-win situation if marriges between hindu indians and muslim is banned to protect the indian miniroty.
The goverment can eventually make all religion equal by askig the majority to look at indonesia.English which is senstive to the muslims at one time in malaysia.Today they have accepted it eventually after the malaysian goverment explain to them. and their economic importenance

Tronic

If it their free choice to convert, then by all means, they should! If they are being forced to convert due to discrimination against non-muslims, then its a shame; forceful conversions in Islam, what else is new?

Huh? Last time I checked, India had more muslims then Malaysia; you are saying they are not Indian? You are comparing religion with ethnicity, two very different things.

Not how free societies should function.

Eventually? So first, put in place discriminatory laws, radicalize the population, and then ask them to look at less radical examples?

Ray

Das,

If you are from Mauritius, could you help me to find one Ram Kumar Gujadar. I believe that his family is well known there and was also in Mauritius politics and someone was a Minister.