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Old 12-29-2004, 03:43 AM   #46 (permalink)
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GOD!!!! That stupid comparison again.

Military budgets mean squat all.

1st, no one touches the US.

2nd, you have to break it down to capital budgets and operational budgets and there are things that are absolutely not transferable. A LGen's pay in China is about two-thirds of my pay in Canada. Do not mean that I can do the job of a LGen (nor a Chinese LGen can do my job).

The Chinese maintain 73 divisions with their bugets while we maintained 3 brigade groups. Thus, for us, our brigades are much better equipped than entire Chinese divisions.

Get off this, you're an amateur.
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Old 12-29-2004, 03:50 AM   #47 (permalink)
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1st, no one touches the US.
Obviously...

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A LGen's pay in China is about two-thirds of my pay in Canada. Do not mean that I can do the job of a LGen (nor a Chinese LGen can do my job).
Look at their military size compared to yours...

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The Chinese maintain 73 divisions with their bugets while we maintained 3 brigade groups. Thus, for us, our brigades are much better equipped than entire Chinese divisions.
LMAO, you getting desperate man. 73 divisions??????? HAHAHAHA thats a joke. A random number out of thin air. Think about it 73 divisions with 3 of yours. And on top of that they have more money to burn then you. That makes them outnumber you HEAVILY!!!!!!!!

So basically if they use rest of their money to well equip those 73 Divisions. You have 73 Chinese Divisions just as well equipped as 3 Canadian Brigades. Chinese SLAUGHTER YOUR ASS!!!

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Look at their military size compared to yours...
They have different requirements than us. They need a large army at home. We need to fight across the world.

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LMAO, you getting desperate man. 73 divisions??????? HAHAHAHA thats a joke. A random number out of thin air.
You know something. It's quite nice that you prove that you're an idiot. Out of thin air? Not by a long shot.

People's Liberation Army Order of Battle

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Think about it 73 divisions with 3 of yours.
No, it's 73 of theirs against 1 of ours. 73 divisions against 3 brigade groups. I'll let you to continue to show your stupidity on this.

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And on top of that they have more money to burn then you. That makes them outnumber you HEAVILY!!!!!!!!
Yes, they do outnumber us. But we out-deploy them by a very BIG margin.

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So basically if they use rest of their money to well equip those 73 Divisions. You have 73 Chinese Divisions just as well equipped as 3 Canadian Brigades. Chinese SLAUGHTER YOUR ASS!!!
No, those divisions are under-equipped when compared to a Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group. And I still have absolute confidence that anyone of my brigade groups can take on a Chinese division.

Oh, please do continue to show your ignorance if you don't know what I'm talking about.
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And I still have absolute confidence that anyone of my brigade groups can take on a Chinese division.
First of all, where the hell does it say 73 divisions on that site, idiot???

Second, Everyone has confidence but a reality check... HAHA Canada taking on China, thats like someone talking in LALA LAND.
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My god, you can't count and you can't read English!
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My god, you can't count and you can't read English!
YOUR SO F*CKING STUPID!!! A TYPICAL CANADIAN MILITARY DUDE. TRYING TO COUNT REGIMENTS AND DIVISIONS TOGETHER, IT'S LIKE IMPOSSIBLE. I STILL DOUBT IT HAS 73 DIVISIONS. AND WHERE DOES IT SAY, THE MAINTANENCE FOR THESE DIVISIONS??? LIKE YOU WERE COMPARIN 73 CHINESE DIVISIONS WITH 3 CANADIAN BRIGADES.
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Hehehehehehehehehehahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - Oh, thank you very much for the bellylaugh. The site was put together by the China-Defense.com staff, the most respected English based PLA watchers on the internet. I did not write the article but the aurthur is an extremely well respected academic who has written articles across the globe, who happens to be a friend of mine.

There is alot of good information on that reference page and you've just shown you're not interested in the facts and is too lazy to go into actual details. Just by reading it, you'll get a glimpse on how the Chinese actually deploy for battle ... but no, you don't want to do that. Oh, btw, there are only 73 divisions, some admittingly only at regiment strength but that too tells you wonders ... but then again, I don't expect you to understand.

Case close. I won't respond from this moment on. I will let you have the last word.

Admins, I'm sorry about I was troll baiting this time ... but he made me do it!!!!!!!!
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Hehehehehehehehehehahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - Oh, thank you very much for the bellylaugh. The site was put together by the China-Defense.com staff, the most respected English based PLA watchers on the internet. I did not write the article but the aurthur is an extremely well respected academic who has written articles across the globe, who happens to be a friend of mine.

There is alot of good information on that reference page and you've just shown you're not interested in the facts and is too lazy to go into actual details. Just by reading it, you'll get a glimpse on how the Chinese actually deploy for battle ... but no, you don't want to do that. Oh, btw, there are only 73 divisions, some admittingly only at regiment strength but that too tells you wonders ... but then again, I don't expect you to understand.

Case close. I won't respond from this moment on. I will let you have the last word.

Admins, I'm sorry about I was troll baiting this time ... but he made me do it!!!!!!!!

You still didn't answer my question where you got your maintanence information from idiot. Where the hell did you get 73 Chinese Divisions = 3 Canadian Brigades in terms of spending. Let me just remind you that each division has a seperate role, for example a Tank Division might get more maintanence funding then an Infantry division. I don't want to sit here and count all the Chinese Divisions. All I want is to know where you got the spending information from??? Cuz you know you made it up from nowhere. And then you try to cover your lies by making me sit there and count unnessary numbers, lol. Your a joke, shitface.
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You still didn't answer my question where you got your maintanence information from idiot. Where the hell did you get 73 Chinese Divisions = 3 Canadian Brigades in terms of spending. Let me just remind you that each division has a seperate role, for example a Tank Division might get more maintanence funding then an Infantry division. I don't want to sit here and count all the Chinese Divisions. All I want is to know where you got the spending information from??? Cuz you know you made it up from nowhere. And then you try to cover your lies by making me sit there and count unnessary numbers, lol. Your a joke, shitface.
My god. You really don't know military terminology ... and you're trying to lecture me?

I will give you a hint.

What's a division's sub-echelons?
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My god. You really don't know military terminology ... and you're trying to lecture me?

I will give you a hint.

What's a division's sub-echelons?
f*ggot just tell me the source where you got the spending per division from???
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Im with tronic on this i think officer of engineers is speaking out of his ****!!!
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Tronic,
Cool it. OoE is a retd Colonel from the Canadian Corps of Engineers. He has done extensive studies on the PLA.
If you have any doubts on his claims do some research on your own before challenging his claims.
For Gods sake Canada has different military requirements than China, so why should their armies be similar.
I wish we had a neighbour like the US, then we could spend our money on development than weapons.
BTW, the cost of one nuclear submarine can eradicate malaria from a country like Bangladesh. Where should Canada spend that money?
On a sub or in development?
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Captain,

It's quite obvious that these two don't know the difference between brigade from regiment and simple math eludes them. No need to show them their errors. It's quite funny when you read their posts. I'm having a barrel of a time allowing them to show their ignorance.

And the kid lives in Toronto, like typical Canadian kids, he has no idea about the CF and is just wacking off to show his ignorance.
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Tronc,

Just re-read your posts for a good laugh. To save yourself some further humilation. Re-read what I wrote. I've said nothing you've thought I said.

What are they doing in Toronto school these days, comprehension and simple counting ain't a requirement anymore?

Just an friendly FYI, start behaving with a little more manners, I don't mind being called an idiot but the admin here has banned more than one person who can't hold their tonques against me ... not that you have much comprehension in these things.

So, when are you going to answer my questions?
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Colonel,

Don't rise to the bait.

Let them say what they want. It matters not.

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He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
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