Plight of Nagalim - A country brutally occupied & oppressed by the Indians - Page 3

Tronic · 01-01-2005, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kaalia

You don't know that for sure tronic so why are you trying to state your baseless opinions as facts?! Man you're a lamer if I ever seen one.

Ok fine... I don't know if anyone read the articles but those 27 replies... they are of Shere stamping his views on how Sikhism should be or posting some more articles, and thats a fact.

Sher-e-Punjab · 01-01-2005, 12:30 PM

Press Release:

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New Year Message - 2005 THE NAGA NATIONAL COUNCIL

LONDON, Dec 30: I send my warmest greetings and best wishes to our people for the New Year of 2005. ...

We know our nation continues to face a belligerent India
but we remain confident that the democratic will of our people will see
us through to the end.

May the Almighty God lead us and shield our people from evil all the time.

It is amazing that even in this 21st century, Delhi still appear to
have the illusion that it can bewitch the resilient Naga people to
concede their sovereignty. Since India invaded Nagaland in 1954, the
world had witnessed the United States of America, the number one
superpower withdrew from Vietnam, and the former Soviet Union, the
number two superpower withdrew from Afghanistan, in the intervening
period. Yet how long can India, a regional menace to date by contrast,
justify its relentless bully to subvert Naga sovereignty and clearly
bent on imposing another political clowns as its stooges in Nagaland.

Repeat of past flop: Lest we forget, in the previous Indian government
project, it was the hapless Naga salaried men in the Indian government
service who were collected to attend a "convention" and subsequently
made to sign a so-called sixteen points agreement that led to the
excuse of Nagaland puppet state government in December 1963. A year
later, the Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru who ordered the
invasion of Nagaland in 1954 agreed to sign Cease-fire Agreement with
the Federal Government of Nagaland, effective on 06 September 1964.
Soon after signing the Agreement, regrettably he passed away. Indian
leaders who succeeded him lacked his authority and following a series
of inept bilateral talk, India unilaterally abrogated the international
Cease-fire Agreement with the Federal Government of Nagaland on 31
August 1972. Hereinafter, in order to justify deployment of the massive
Indian occupation army, particularly to have a "free hand", the puppet
government exist till today. Notwithstanding, the Naga National Council
(NNC) and the Federal Government of Nagaland, in pursuance of 16 May
1951 national Mandate and subsequent Naga Constitution, have thwarted
India's relentless bully to annex Nagaland.

The coming of information technology: As time move on India could no
longer blackout Nagaland from the scrutiny of the world as a result of
the rapid advance in information technology. Meanwhile, there has been
a radical shift in international perception on bully and aggression in
recent years and any country in breach of the rule of law can expect
strong censure from world bodies. It would appear even slumbering India
is coming around to recognise its earlier concocted claim of "majority
of the Naga people are willing to stay within Indian Union" no longer
sound and tenable. But Delhi Brahmin bureaucrats true to form seems to
be satisfied with groping the symptoms of the conflict between the two
nations rather than address the core issue of Naga sovereignty, in
other words as the Naga leader A.Z.Phizo put it succinctly, "The Nagas
are not Indians. Nagaland is not Indian territory."

Is the prospect for peace any nearer? The latest Indian government
project extravagantly promoted a "peace process" is undoubtedly more
bizarre than the last time. It would appear that Delhi has inexplicably
opted to engage with a fictitious country calling itself "Nagalim" and
led by a "collective leadership" mostly from the Ukhrul district of
Manipur state, in India in lieu of Nagaland. This unprecedented cynical
political ploy by Delhi raises more disturbing questions of the apathy
of Indian leadership. In the past twenty five years, this odious outfit
in nexus with the Indian army, terrorised the Naga people and were
responsible for the death of thousands of Naga civilians as well as
non-Nagas that can never be justified under any circumstances,
irrespective of political persuasion. There is a familiar ring of
wishful thinking by Delhi in the much hyped reception given to the
"Nagalim leaders" on their recent visit to India and Nagaland as "guest
of Home Affairs Ministry" of India. Interestingly, the visitors laid
bare the fiction of "Nagalim". Surely, India cannot be seriously
thinking that the "Naga problem" can be negotiated without the
legitimate authority of Nagaland.

The destiny of Nagaland: The tendency of referring the Indian
occupation army militarised tyranny in Nagaland as the "Naga problem"
is a common fallacy. Plainly how can any reasonable person miss the
point that the Naga people live in Nagaland and only after India
invaded the country in 1954, peace was shattered. How can the
subsequent unremitting Indian army brutality become the "Naga problem?"
The irony is that before either nation declared its independence in
1947, the Naga representatives led by A.Z.Phizo strenuously reached out
the prominent Indian and neighbouring leaders for future peaceful
co-existence. Regardless of the recent blatant Indian meddling in Naga
internal issues, I sincerely believe reason, mutual respects and
non-violence has to be the way forward.

On 26 December, Indian Ocean Tsunamis disaster caused horrific death to
an estimated 120,000 people and vast destruction in Asia. At this sad
time, our sympathy and prayers are with the bereaved families and those
nursing their injuries.

May God bless Nagaland. Urra Uvie.

Adinno Phizo
President

Karthik · 01-01-2005, 13:20 PM

I agree with Tronic. The guy has posted some mindless pile of rat droppings that no one is interested in. I came in here hoping to engage in a discussion. But these two pages are nothing but trollish junk. What a waste of time on my part

Sher-e-Punjab · 02-11-2005, 14:06 PM

Press Release:

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POLITICAL VULTURES ON FALSE TRAIL - THE NAGA NATIONAL COUNCIL

Adinno Phizo
President
AP/NNC/204L

London,Nov 25: The Naga people universally know they are a nation so what right has India got to object and occupy Nagaland? ...

During the lifetime of the Naga leader, India knew his inimitable leadership could not be faltered, nevertheless, the widely held patronising perception in Delhi had been "Wait for Phizo's death, the rest we can control". Not surprisingly, in recent years Delhi hands could clearly be seen in political machinations and an all-out attempt to erase the Naga leader legacy to modern Nagaland, in particular, the Naga National Council (NNC), and the Federal Government of Nagaland.

Furthermore, India had gone to extraordinary length to invent a Hindu Nagaland by entering into alliance with anti-Nagaland elements. There are no shortage of incontrovertible evidence that India still hanker after neo-colonialism but there is no way the Naga people will yield to any understanding on bilateral relations obtained by fraudulent means.

Fifty years on: Over the past fifty years (1954-2004), Indian army has been responsible for the death of over 100,000 Nagas and denied the Nagas; freedom, opportunity, economic development, membership with international community, deprived normalcy for two generations. Whereas during this period, the international opinions have shifted strongly against neo-colonialism and bully, to date India has not abandoned its occupation army militarised tyranny in Nagaland. The fact that we have our national identity and Nagaland today is because of the great sacrifices of many thousands brave Naga patriots who gave their lives in defending our country. As for the present and the years ahead, the Naga National Council and the Federal Government of Nagaland are determined to press forward the Naga stand in pursuance of the democratic Mandate empowered by the Naga people on 16 May 1951.

Substitution of Nagaland will not happen: Following the Federal Government of Nagaland and the Government of India entered into an international Cease-fire Agreement in 1964, the Naga people who hitherto did not share a common political history with modern Nagaland sought to join the Motherland. The newcomers were received with an open door by the NNC and the Federal Government of Nagaland. Irrespective of political separation in the past, NNC consistently uphold every Naga as equal. From a promising start of tasting relative freedom, it was unfortunate that a section of the newcomers began to dream of grabbing power by any means. This small group were then ensnared by the Indian Intelligence and began a self-destruct course when it broke away from NNC and Nagaland. Whatever fancy names it calls itself since, it no longer has any business in the affairs of Nagaland. Those who seek to destroy the national foundation will find themselves isolated from the mainstream.

Vultures hovering over Nagaland: At this juncture, non-native vultures could be seen hovering over Nagaland lured by a false sense of expectation to partake in an orgy of eating "dead" and "discredited" (NNC and the Federal Government of Nagaland) organisations, nay, alive! albeit a self-delusion. Of course, we know vultures crave for meat, but when in the first instance, real Hindus don't eat meat, and in the second instance, there are no takeaway establishments in Nagaland, who is bluffing who at the trysting-place.Given the anti-Nagaland thrust coming from a bizarre unholy matching between India and an "entity" unconnected with Nagaland, any reasonable person would ask what has become of India? It is an insult to the intelligence of the Naga people to suggest that a seemingly anachronistic retired bureaucrat representing Delhi and a non-governmental fictitious country in lieu of Nagaland can bring "peace". Our nation has not been deterred by powerful international bully in the past and we are now certainly not going to be swept away by political vultures that flagrantly lie in claiming to exercise prerogative in the affairs of Nagaland. The idea that the Nagas will allow anti-Nagaland elements in complicity with Delhi to whimsically dump Nagaland in exchange for a pipe dream socialist totalitarian country, is a non-starter. Any Naga who contravenes Lakhuti Resolution (1955) and persistently indulge in anti-democratic activities to undermine Nagaland is liable to forfeit Naga nationality.

Is this India's 21st Century rethink on Nagaland? The rapid advance in information technology in recent years inevitably open up Nagaland to the world. It has given the Nagas new opportunity to reach out the world to inform the Naga stand as well as correct the gross misrepresentation of Nagaland by certain anti-Nagaland elements operating abroad. India know it cannot swept away the longest nternational conflict in modern time, especially one started by India, hich simply wouldn't fade away. The current political machinations by Delhi ostensibly to effect changes on the status quo, vis-a-vis Nagaland is inconsistent with international protocol. Notwithstanding the tentative move, the Indian Government seem incapable of taking the hard decision as evidenced by its leaders including the newly installed Indian Congress Party led United Progressive Alliance government, who apparently felt safer to continue "peace process" with a non-governmental entity opted out of Nagaland. However, Delhi's latest attempt to internalise the conflict with a piecemeal 'process oriented' package which could possibly superimpose the present puppet government with cosmetic name changes is a total waste of time. Anyone familiar with the nuances of international conflict know that for Delhi to shift policy change to 'result oriented' it would require political mandate from respective governments and no doubt India know it cannot fool the Nagas.

Linking Nagaland with Indian Northeast is futile: Nagaland is a sovereign state and in political term, nothing in common with the Indian Northeast states. In 1947 the then Premier of Assam Gopinath Bordoloi, the so-called tribal leaders in Assam and Manipur opted to join the Union of India. In contrast, the independent Naga communities representatives led by A.Z.Phizo declared Nagaland would stay independent on 14 August 1947, one day ahead of India's own independence granted by its former colonial ruler Great Britain. Whatever India's designs, the notion that Nagaland is "part and parcel of India" only surfaced in the 1950s when the late Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, wistfully fabricated history to justify the invasion of Nagaland in 1954. Notwithstanding the contrasting size of the two countries, the Nagas were not deterred by a David and Goliath predicament. India expected a quick victory but in the ensuing fierce fighting, the Naga patriots refused to be defeated. Paradoxically, Delhi imposed a puppet state government in 1963 when in fact it was only in 1964 the late Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri who briefly succeeded Jawaharlal Nehru moved Nagaland affairs arbitrarily from Ministry of External Affairs to Internal Affairs. Following Delhi's policy blunder, the ramification were predictable as it became the catalyst in the break up of the former Assam. Moreover, India's hypocritical foreign policy towards Nagaland inevitable incite internal insurgency in the Indian Northeast with diverse political agenda and unlikely to end until India rectify the fiction that Nagaland is "within India". It is too risible when later on Delhi would like the Nagas to believe that the "demand for an independent Nagaland" placed India in an "impossible" situation, and if "granted", would lead others to demand the same. Surprisingly over the years Indian media and the Indian civil society took it as the gospel truth and hardly bothered to verify fact.

Naga society and resurgence of national consciousness: In the interminable conflict with India, the cohesion of Naga society has come through remarkably intact. Admittedly, at times a section of Nagas burble as if belonging to different planets. Depending on which side of fence in political correctness, it can either be seen political naivety or mature democratic tradition in Nagaland. Thankfully, the burbling is confined to a small section of politically irrelevant busybodies whose primary purpose is self-serving hypocrisy. Nonetheless, from the outset the Naga leader imbued with his people that the crux of sovereignty is about people and without the acquiescence of our people it is worthless. Therefore, from the inception of NNC, unqualified membership is open to every Naga. By all accounts the organic fusion of Naga society remain fundamentally sound and according to my information national consciousness is very much alive in our country.

On national stand, NNC and the Federal Government will continue to pursue non-violence policy in safeguarding the sovereignty of Nagaland. The Nagas are in Nagaland, it is our country. There is no question of the Nagas demanding any favour in reminding the Indian aggressors to quit Nagaland. When Delhi indicate its willingness to address the core issue of the conflict, it will find NNC and the Federal Government of Nagaland stand ready to respond to a definitive bilateral talk to achieve lasting peace between the two nations. As our nation look ahead, nothing can stop Nagaland to be free. Is it not ironic that given Delhi's predilection for sermonising others to abjure aggression and violence, it found itself impotent to apply the same principles in respect of Naga fundamental right to stay independent.

May God bless Nagaland. Urra Uvie

Adinno Phizo
President

AP/NNC/204L

amit · 02-12-2005, 03:25 AM

Sorry person, but you are a radical that society doesn't accept. You dream about a homeland, and can't face that fact that India is yours. Also, you don't even LIVE in India, so you have no say. Also, Nagaland is an integral part of India, no questions asked. You are a hypocryte, you don't support the Tibet liberation or Tamil Tiger liberation, yet these people are oppressed. At least the Punjabis and Nagas get the same right as the rest of Indians.

All Indains get the same basic rights, there is no oppression. This is just the view of a minority.

bull · 02-12-2005, 03:38 AM

Come on man dont post the entire **** here give us the link, if intersted we will go there and read it.thanks.

RajKhalsa · 02-12-2005, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tronic

And i'm guessin you probably believe in the creation of Khalistan. Well, let me tell i'm a Sikh too and i'm disgusted by people like you. The only freedom should go to Tibet as these monks are peaceful people and probably won't fight wars but let me assure you that is Khalistan, Kashmir and other states of India became independent, there would be a lot more wars especially against India..

Hi brother. Good luck trying to rationalize with him. The guy's a nutcase of the highest magnitude. One'd do better trying to converse with an Alqueda member.

Punjab Ki Fauj · 07-14-2005, 10:46 AM

Amnesty International:

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Civilians decry draconian law in India
http://web.amnesty.org/wire/July2005/India

Violence and human rights abuses are a feature of daily life across large parts of northeastern India and in the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Wide-scale militant activity by armed groups has led to a corresponding high level of militarization and the introduction of “special” security legislation, including the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act 1958 (AFSPA). The AFSPA’s provisions enable security forces to arrest people and enter property without a warrant, and to shoot to kill even in circumstances where they are not at imminent risk. It is widely believed that the AFSPA has facilitated grave human rights abuses, including extrajudicial execution, “disappearance”, rape and torture.

“There is more indiscriminate violence now than when the Act was initially introduced,” says Colin Gonsalves, a respected human rights activist. Between 1992 and 2004 a reported 12,000 civilians have died in northeastern India as a result of such violence. And in Jammu and Kashmir, it is widely believed that some 40,000 people have died since the rise of militancy in 1989. “The civilian population want law and order but the fact that the army and paramilitary forces are used to tackle a law and order situation means that the police and the legal system are bypassed,” adds Colin Gonsalves. “Rather than the AFSPA bringing peace it brings anger.”

For decades, human rights activists in India have called for a repeal of the AFSPA and expressed opposition to human rights abuses in areas where it is in force. When Thangjam Manoram, a woman from Manipur, was allegedly sexually assaulted and killed by members of the Assam Rifles, a paramilitary organization working alongside the army in July 2004, it provoked months of demonstrations in the northeast, including more extreme forms of protest such as self-immolation, hunger strikes and naked protest.

Following this, the Manipur state government withdrew the AFSPA from the Greater Municipal District of Manipur’s capital, Imphal, and the Indian government appointed a committee to review the Act. Calls for a total repeal continue.

In March 2005, well-known Indian author and human rights defender, Arundhati Roy, joined AI members demonstrating in Delhi for the repeal of the AFSPA. AI members held simultaneous demonstrations across several Indian cities, including Pune, Bhubaneshwar, Chennai and Agra. In Imphal, they attempted to form a human chain but were prevented from doing so by the police.

Under the AFSPA no one can start legal action against any member of the armed forces for alleged abuses under the AFSPA without the permission of the central government. Some action has been taken in recent years to bring those guilty of human rights violations to justice, but government approval to prosecute those accused of abuses is very rarely given. AI remains concerned that the AFSPA has enabled many perpetrators to escape punishment.

AI recently submitted a briefing to the AFSPA Review Committee urging it to recommend that the government withdraw the AFSPA, sanction investigations into allegations of human rights abuses by security forces and ensure that any future legislation complies fully with international human rights standards.

AI’s international campaign to repeal the AFSPA began in June.

Rani Lakshmibai · 07-14-2005, 20:36 PM

God, this is going to go on forever....

Why does everybody in here hate or think that people from another religion are evil? It is not usually said out loud, but it is there.

Each one of us, Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Animist, Christian are all guilty of thinking that way and our religions are guilty of crimes and evils against humanity if you go back throughout history.

This isn't directly related to what the topic at hand, but the underlying current is undeniable...

lemontree · 07-15-2005, 00:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rani Lakshmibai

God, this is going to go on forever....

Why does everybody in here hate or think that people from another religion are evil? It is not usually said out loud, but it is there.

When the guy has a dead terrorist as his avatar, what else can you expect him to post. Anyway he is another of those being sheltered by a "liberal" western nation or a Pakistani troll.

Punjab Ki Fauj · 07-15-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rani Lakshmibai

God, this is going to go on forever....

Why does everybody in here hate or think that people from another religion are evil? It is not usually said out loud, but it is there.

Each one of us, Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Animist, Christian are all guilty of thinking that way and our religions are guilty of crimes and evils against humanity if you go back throughout history.

This isn't directly related to what the topic at hand, but the underlying current is undeniable...

When you Hindoos learn the values of honesty, decency, respect and tolerance then and only then will religious tension within the subcontinent begin to ease.

Be it Indian nationalism (A fraud, fake construct of the Congress) or Hindutva (Another fraud, nothing but lies and revisionist history) they are two heads of the same vile creature.

No one has been able to live in peace with Hindoos, neither have Hindoos ever live in peace with eachother.

It is not about hate, it is about defence against polluting and subversive influence and agenda of the Indians over the minority (ie non-Hindu, Hindi, Hindustani) national, ethnic, religious and cultural groups oppressed and occupied by India.

Regards,

Punjab Ki Fauj · 07-15-2005, 09:28 AM

Naga International Support Center, NISC www.nagalim.nl
A human rights organization

Press Release

Amsterdam, June 17 2004

The Naga International Support Center Amsterdam, Netherlands announces the launching of the book:

Enter the Forbidden Land: The Quest for Nagalim

by Frans Welman

Enter the Forbidden Land tells the story of three attempts by Frans Welman and his companions to enter Nagaland, the land of more than forty Naga tribes. Although all three efforts ended in failure, the attempts demonstrate how India and the lesser-known Burma, now known as Myanmar, have been successful in keeping foreigners out. Neither country wants outsiders to observe the raging war that started shortly after independence from colonial Britain. The Nagas, who time and again have made it known to both former colonizer Britain and newly emerging India that they wanted to be left alone, were invaded by India in 1954. Now 50 years later the war is still on, although for the second time in its history peace talks are taking place. This war, forgotten by the international community, was the challenge for Welman and his companions. Their goal was to check on the rare yet compelling accounts of the land and people that told of beauty and democracy among the Nagas and their tenacity to not give in to a powerful alien master. The three journeys enlighten the reader to how fifty years of domination make a people believe that what has been done, including genocide, is genuinely defined in true terms. These journeys open eyes to see the beauty and the beast within. They will lead to the fascinating Nagas, who are in dire need to be assisted in their quest to be free.

Enter the Forbidden Land is published in English by Publish America of the USA:
http://www.publishamerica.com/shoppi...asp?Search=Yes

and can be ordered from Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...007512-7143035

and Barnes and Noble
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...6Y&cds2Pid=946

and can of course by sending us an email be ordered from us at www.nagalim.nl too.

For more information visit us at www.nagalim.nl or get in touch nisc@nagalim.nl

hammer · 07-15-2005, 09:31 AM

*Yawn* zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..

indianguy4u · 07-15-2005, 09:33 AM

A bigger yawnnnnn from me !!!

Punjab Ki Fauj · 07-16-2005, 15:42 PM

Review of the Forbidden Land by Thomas Farrell:

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Readers of Franz Welman's new book "Enter the Forbidden Land - The Quest for Nagalim" become aware of a small but growing international movement. The goal of the movement is to expose the ongoing abuses inflicted by the Indian government on the tribal peoples living in the northeastern state of Nagaland. Indeed, it is Welman's purpose in writing this book to break down the wall of secrecy that has kept the atrocities committed by the Indian army in Nagaland hidden from world scrutiny. It is quite telling that it took a Dutch social activist, an outsider, to write such a book.

Where, a reader inevitably asks, is the Indian social activist, the Indian politician with a conscience, the modern-day Gandhi if you will, to call attention to and bring a just resolution to what BBC News calls "the world's longest running conflict"? Instead it is Welman, the Director of the Naga International Support Center located in Amsterdam, who takes on the challenge.

The author recounts the history of how India, once the oppressed minority under British rule, became the oppressor once they achieved independence in 1947. This, of course, is the incredible irony that Welman's book forces the reader to face, and that is why it is an important book.

In direct contradiction to Mahatma Gandhi's public promise to the Naga people in 1947, the Indian government refused to give the Naga people their independence. Ever since, India has used the military might of an occupying army to withhold a people's right to freedom. In the same way the British thought of dark-skinned Indians as "the white man's burden", Indians came to think of the people of the Naga HiIls as violent savages and made their homeland a "protected area". This Orwellian use of language is used to this day to justify continuing subjugation.

What Welman writes about is what sociologists call "ethnocentrism", the tendency of one social group to consider its culture superior to another India, with its long history of a caste system, is a classic example of ethnocentrism at work. The problem is that ethnocentrism can become especially evil when it turns to violent discrimination as happened in Nazi Germany's Holocaust.

"Enter The Forbidden Land - the Quest for Nagalim" presents evidence of Indian army atrocities both by reference to public documents and in anecdotal interviews with Naga victims. While not on the scope of the Nazi Holocuast, the Gestapo-like actions of some members of the Indian army protected by the Armed Forces Special Powers Act have much in common with the Nazi treatment of Jews in World War II. And, as Hitler tried to conceal the abominations he authorized, so too have India politicians tried to hide their dark secret.

Thanks to people such as Franz Welman, the truth is slowly being revealed. Welman's book is important, but it is not without flaws. The author's use of the third person voice is a bit awkward and, at times, the book takes on the feel of a travel documentary, it distracts from his major theme. That said, Welman's recounting of his three unsuccessful attempts to enter Nagaland underscores the point about the Indian authorities' restriction of personal freedoms.

The challenge that this book takes on is a formidable one, something Welman recognizes as he writes about the skepticism that his message is likely to encounter: "Nagas? Nagas, you say? A war in India where 150,000 died? 200,000 Indian troops fighting a guerilla outfit? Man, if this were true, everybody would know about it! It would be splashed all over the news. Are you crazy?" Welman reminds readers that Indian politicians regularly refer to their government as "the world's biggest democracy" and, in fact, there is much that India has accomplished of which its people can be rightfully proud. Nagaland is just the opposite, a black mark on the country's history.

One can only hope that "Enter the Forbidden Land - the Quest for Nagalim" will find distribution both inside and outside of India.

The author explicitly states his goal of increasing the world's awareness of what has happened and continues to happen in Nagaland. Implicit, however, is the call to Indian reporters, writers, film makers and, yes, even politicians to reveal the reality of what has happened in Nagaland to the general citizenry. That is what happens in democracies. That is how wrongs are made right. Who knows - maybe an especially courageous Indian politician will work to see that India keeps the promise Gandhi made so long ago when he said to a delegation of Nagas:

"The Nagas have every right to be independent. We did not want to live under the domination of British India, but I want you to feel India is yours . . . If you do not wish to join the union of India, nobody will force you to do that."

Tom Farrell - Author of "An American in Nagaland"

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amit Patron Join Date: 11-16-04 Location: California Posts: 287	Sorry person, but you are a radical that society doesn't accept. You dream about a homeland, and can't face that fact that India is yours. Also, you don't even LIVE in India, so you have no say. Also, Nagaland is an integral part of India, no questions asked. You are a hypocryte, you don't support the Tibet liberation or Tamil Tiger liberation, yet these people are oppressed. At least the Punjabis and Nagas get the same right as the rest of Indians. All Indains get the same basic rights, there is no oppression. This is just the view of a minority.

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