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Old 05-11-2004, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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US: India, Pak won't be accepted as nuclear weapon states

India, Pak won't be accepted as nuclear weapon states

S Rajagopalan
Washington, May 9

The United States has ruled out the possibility of accepting India and Pakistan as nuclear weapon states. Washington is sticking to its stand that the two countries as well as Israel should sign the Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) as non-nuclear weapon states.

The American views are contained in submissions made over the week to a meeting in New York of the preparatory committee for 2005 NPT review conference.

John S Wolf, the US assistant secretary for non-proliferation, sought to make it clear that Washington remains resolute on universal NPT adherence, regardless of its concerted moves lately to bolster ties with both India and Pakistan in recent times.

“These steps should not, however, be taken to suggest that we have ‘accepted’ the status of either country as a nuclear weapon state under the NPT. We have not,” he stressed. Wolf, in fact, attributed the reordering of ties “to advance our regional goals, enhance the fight against terrorism, and to secure cooperation from both countries on export controls”.

The official went on to say that the US “will not reward either country for their decisions to acquire nuclear weapons or for the 1998 tests that made the world and the region a more dangerous place”.

Without signing the NPT, India and Pakistan remain ineligible under the US law and policy for any significant assistance to their nuclear programmes. Wolf made it a point to emphasise that the US has steadfastly avoided taking any actions that would be contrary to its “long-established nuclear control policy”.

The US statement, however, does not respond to India’s long-held view that the NPT is discriminatory, weighted in favour of the nuclear-haves. Instead, it seeks to make out a case for strengthening and enforcing the treaty’s non-proliferation undertakings.

Washington’s focus in South Asia, according to Wolf, has been and remains on preventing actions that would undermine the global non-proliferation regime and regional stability.

“We continue to call on India and Pakistan not to conduct nuclear tests, to end the production of fissile material for nuclear weapons, to take steps to reduce regional tensions and to prevent the use of nuclear weapons,” he said.

Additionally, he said the US expects Pakistan to continue to take the necessary steps to end the activities of the proliferation network spawned by nuclear scientist AQ Khan. He said it was up to Pakistan and numerous other countries in which this multinational network operated to take steps to shut down the network and prevent any recurrence.
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Thanks, no one needs to.

Atleast that saves us from signing that stupid NPT!! One less document to sign!!
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Thanks, no one needs to.

Atleast that saves us from signing that stupid NPT!! One less document to sign!!
I agree with the NPT and CTBT in principle, I just think it should recognise Pakistan, India and Israel as nuclear powers. All three nations have had them for some time, and its highly unlikely any of the three will give them up. Nuclear France for one recently accepted Pakistan as a nuclear power, I don't know about Israel and INdia though...

Anyhow this ruling wont make one iota difference...
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Nuclear France for one recently accepted Pakistan as a nuclear power, I don't know about Israel and INdia though...
What?
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Pakistan should alone be recognised as a nuclear state. They have some importance to the proliferation matrix. The are the one who are purveyors of nuclear secrets to rogue states like Iran and Libya as also to petty terrorists the world over.

For money, they will sell their mothers! One can't expect anything better from the products of numerous invasions that marked rape and pillage. Devastation of one's villages and towns educates the population to live for the day even if it means selling their souls and it is made easier with dubious parentage.
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Old 05-11-2004, 19:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Pakistan should alone be recognised as a nuclear state. They have some importance to the proliferation matrix. The are the one who are purveyors of nuclear secrets to rogue states like Iran and Libya as also to petty terrorists the world over.

For money, they will sell their mothers! One can't expect anything better from the products of numerous invasions that marked rape and pillage. Devastation of one's villages and towns educates the population to live for the day even if it means selling their souls and it is made easier with dubious parentage.
I wondered how long it would take until an Indian would come along and turn this into a flame thread. Well done! You've done your race justice! lol
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http://pakistantimes.net/2004/02/29/top3.htm

If thats their view on Pakistan I guess it'll be the same for India.
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Asked if France has accepted Pakistan as a nuclear weapon state as it has decided to open dialogue with Islamabad on the issue, "Reality means that Pakistan has a nuclear capability, that is the fact," de Villepin replied.
He never publicly acknowledge Pakistan. Every other country in world knows and acknowledges this reality let alone France, for pete's sake, we exploded atomic bombs/devices!!
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He never publicly acknowledge Pakistan. Every other country in world knows and acknowledges this reality let alone France, for pete's sake, we exploded atomic bombs/devices!!
Then what would the purpose of the statement be? Of course France is aware of Pakistan's nuclear weapons, acknowledging it now would be pointless.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't see why the France would do that...
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Then what would the purpose of the statement be? Of course France is aware of Pakistan's nuclear weapons, acknowledging it now would be pointless.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't see why the France would do that...

Nice post, sir..
But seriously i feel Nuke's are very old and pethetically dangerous technology that deserves to be dumped, and i say Pakistan should be happy to give up its arsneal in return for some rather juicy nanotechnology contracts with manufacturing rights for the next 12 years...

Its ok to dream is it not?
Afterall -Eleanor Roosevelt - once said "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams".
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Nice post, sir..
But seriously i feel Nuke's are very old and pethetically dangerous technology that deserves to be dumped, and i say Pakistan should be happy to give up its arsneal in return for some rather juicy nanotechnology contracts with manufacturing rights for the next 12 years...

Its ok to dream is it not?
Afterall -Eleanor Roosevelt - once said "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams".
Old isn't necessarily bad; our nuclear weapons form a very formidable last line of defence, and has detered India ever since we've had it. Don't get me wrong; nanotechnology is great, but we don't need to sacrifice our nuclear weapons to achieve it.
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How about we take a moral stance here and say only India and Israel can have nukes but Pakistan can't.
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How about we take a moral stance here and say only India and Israel can have nukes but Pakistan can't.
How would that be a moral stance?
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How would that be a moral stance?
Exactly, i dont think the author devoted much thought into that reply... It sounded more like random spamming then a logical contribution to a serious discussion.
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His moral stance doesnt need to conform with yours.
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