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10-19-2006, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 667medic
Yeah sure, the Sinhalese can't even evolve a consensus to liver in peace with their Tamils, do you expect them to accomodate Indians....
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Either way, LTTE has to go. Forcing children to war will not get them support from any govt in the world and rightfully so. They are only a military entity. As a political entity, they are finished. India will never support LTTE or allow them to come to power. Maybe only use them, as a worst case scenario. So the Tamils in Northern Sri Lanka will have to look for an alternative to LTTE.
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10-19-2006, 07:02 AM
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if my memory serves correct sri lankan gov allowed the pakistani flights with refuellling and open skies at 1972 indo-pak war ...sri lankan gov had always been pro pakistan ......
i guess time is ripe for india's RAW to once again wag its tail to wip those sinhalese extremeists .....
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RAW was rumoured to have freed Pirbhakaran two or three times. This was once mentioned in India Today, IIRC. |
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10-19-2006, 11:41 AM
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Either way, LTTE has to go. Forcing children to war will not get them support from any govt in the world and rightfully so. They are only a military entity. As a political entity, they are finished. India will never support LTTE or allow them to come to power. Maybe only use them, as a worst case scenario. So the Tamils in Northern Sri Lanka will have to look for an alternative to LTTE.
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exactly my thoughts....
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10-19-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gilgamesh
Either way, LTTE has to go. Forcing children to war will not get them support from any govt in the world and rightfully so. They are only a military entity. As a political entity, they are finished. India will never support LTTE or allow them to come to power. Maybe only use them, as a worst case scenario. So the Tamils in Northern Sri Lanka will have to look for an alternative to LTTE.
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but what u dont realise is that the tamils dont believe anyone else than the LTTE. all the other tamil parties have either sold out, or turned traitor to them. its the LTTE thats still fighting for tis cause. look at EPDP..look at the other parties..not only did they stop fighting for the cause, but they are activly working with the srilankan gov agasint the tamils. The head of EPDP , duglous Devananda is the minister of hindu affairs in sl, and the joke is that he isnt even hindu!! he gets extorsion money from all the businessed and gets a % of money from the ministry funds, on top of the monthly pay he gets for colloborating with the sl gov. do u really think the tamil people would accept anyone else as their representatives thn the LTTE? well if u truly believe so, then its juts a pipe dream.
bottom line; there is no alternative to the LTTE for the tamils in srilanka, u guys , not being srilankan tamils, just dont realise how much the ltte is admired and looked up to in the sri lankan community. its like saying "lets replace gandhi with musharraf as a icon of ahimsa" 
Ps: so tis ok to have the Sl gov kill children y the hundreds but not ok to have some on the LTTE? hmnn
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10-19-2006, 13:24 PM
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exactly my thoughts....
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tronic, i hate to say this, but the LTTE is not like the kalistani fighters..lol. 
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10-19-2006, 13:40 PM
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RAW was rumoured to have freed Pirbhakaran two or three times. This was once mentioned in India Today, IIRC.
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can we have some proof of that claim pls? otherwise its just wishful thinking from india today. the ipkf attacked his camps three times and he escaped three times
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In one instance an IPKF assault in Mullaitivu in Feb 88 almost trapped the IPKF's top leadership. A gallant rearguard action by Prabhakaran's guards ensured his escape.12 LTTE men were found dead after the fight.
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10-19-2006, 13:58 PM
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Either way, LTTE has to go. Forcing children to war will not get them support from any govt in the world and rightfully so. They are only a military entity. As a political entity, they are finished. India will never support LTTE or allow them to come to power. Maybe only use them, as a worst case scenario. So the Tamils in Northern Sri Lanka will have to look for an alternative to LTTE.
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It seems the LTTE has a nick name called Oyatha Alaigal, which basically means Unceasing Waves. This was because of their relentless attack on the enemy and keeping the Sinhalas on their toes, unlike the other organizations.
In 1983, the Sinhalese allowed their public to massacre the Tamils but today after the Galle bombing, they proclaimed a curfew and even prevented the looting of Tamil shops, why??????
The answer is the LTTE, they know that the LTTE will use every excuse possible to retaliate. For good or bad the LTTE is the only saviour of the Lankan Tamils. ......
As for India not supporting the LTTE, it would never support any organization which is capable of achieving a separate Eelam because of the risk of disturbances in Tamil Nadu. But the least India can do is to force the Sinhalese to treat their Tamil citizens like humans 
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10-19-2006, 14:00 PM
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It seems the LTTE has a nick name called Oyatha Alaigal, which basically means Unceasing Waves. This was because of their relentless attack on the enemy and keeping the Sinhalas on their toes, unlike the other organizations.
In 1983, the Sinhalese allowed their public to massacre the Tamils but today after the Galle bombing, they proclaimed a curfew and even prevented the looting of Tamil shops, why??????
The answer is the LTTE, they know that the LTTE will use every excuse possible to retaliate. For good or bad the LTTE is the only saviour of the Lankan Tamils. ......
As for India not supporting the LTTE, it would never support any organization which is capable of achieving a separate Eelam because of the risk of disturbances in Tamil Nadu. But the least India can do is to force the Sinhalese to treat their Tamil citizens like humans |
well said, but isnt it odd that india could support the mukti bhahini but not the ltte?
anyways, unceasing waves was the name of their major sweeping series of assaults they had on the sl forces. there were unceasing waves 1, 2, 3 and 4. i think. The elephant pass camp and about 30 other sl army camps fell for the 4th unceasing waves
Seventh Anniversary Celebrations of Unceasing Waves - 1 Victory
On 19th July 1996, the LTTE staged a massive military strike on the Mullaitiv Army Base and conquered. This proved to be a decisive victory and an event which influenced history thereafter. The seventh anniversary of this momentous victory was celebrated in Mullaitivu on 19 of July 2003.
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10-19-2006, 14:08 PM
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well said, but isnt it odd that india could support the mukti bhahini but not the ltte?
anyways, unceasing waves was the name of their major sweeping series of assaults they had on the sl forces. there were unceasing waves 1, 2, 3 and 4. i think. The elephant pass camp and about 30 other sl army camps fell for the 4th unceasing waves
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I am aware of the Unceasing waves ops but it is also a nick name for the LTTE. There are nick names for the other organizations, can't remember them now. One of them was called Thoorathu Idimulakkam (Distant Thunder) because of their habit of planting IEDs in distant Colombo
As for India having supported the Mukthi Bahini, it's probably because there was never a realsitic possibility of BD merging with India because of religious issues and the Cold War. USA and China might tolerate a partition of Pakistan but never a merger of an erstwhile Pakistani territory with India..... |
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10-19-2006, 14:10 PM
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I am aware of the Unceasing waves ops but it is also a nick name for the LTTE. There are nick names for the other organizations, can't remember them now. One of them was called Thoorathu Idimulakkam (Distant Thunder) because of their habit of planting IEDs in distant Colombo
As for India having supported the Mukthi Bahini, it's probably because there was never a realsitic possibility of BD merging with India because of religious issues and the Cold War. USA and China might tolerate a partition of Pakistan but never a merger of an erstwhile Pakistani territory with India..... |
do you seriously think that sri lankan tamils would be wanting to be part of a greater tamil state? man ..no!. the indian goverment bases all its decision/actions on something that the srilankan tamils dont want!!.lol.
if india was on good terms with the ltte, im sure that india could have used LTTE knowhow to take the war back into pakistan and into their training camps of the kahmiri militants on a guirilla way
i mght be wrong, but from what ive seen , the LTTE seems to be the most experienced on special-forces type attacks when compared to the special forces of the other south asian militaries
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10-19-2006, 14:15 PM
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do you seriously think that sri lankan tamils would be wanting to be part of a greater tamil state? man ..no!. the indian goverment bases all its decision/actions on something that the srilankan tamils dont want!!.lol.
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It's the other way around. There are plenty of nationalists in Tamil Nadu. They are gonna say gee an independent Republic of Eelam, then why not a Republic of Tamil Nadu incorporating all the old Tamil kingdoms
It's a wet dream, no dought about it but it will be exploited by the politicos especially the Dravidian parties.... |
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10-19-2006, 14:17 PM
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tronic, i hate to say this, but the LTTE is not like the kalistani fighters..lol. |
ofcourse not... Khalistanis never used children as weapons of war... only religious places as battlegrounds... 
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Originally Posted by 667medic
In 1983, the Sinhalese allowed their public to massacre the Tamils but today after the Galle bombing, they proclaimed a curfew and even prevented the looting of Tamil shops, why??????
The answer is the LTTE, they know that the LTTE will use every excuse possible to retaliate. For good or bad the LTTE is the only saviour of the Lankan Tamils. ......
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maybe, maybe not... LTTE would probably like to think that it is because of them, but could it also possibly be that the SL government had a change of heart??? After 1984, the Congress government allowed mobs to massacre Sikhs in Delhi as the Police watched on... but then again, times change, people change... |
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10-19-2006, 14:19 PM
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It's the other way around. There are plenty of nationalists in Tamil Nadu. They are gonna say gee an independent Republic of Eelam, then why not a Republic of Tamil Nadu incorporating all the old Tamil kingdoms
It's a wet dream, no dought about it but it will be exploited by the politicos especially the Dravidian parties.... |
ah but u miss the main point!! the indian government is NOT discriminating aagsint indian tamils!! and actually the south indian states are one of the most prosperous indian states, esp with the new high tech gardens sprouting all over and bringing in a lot of money. why would the indian tamil pople want a seperate country!!! gosh!! they are having a great time now!!.
and even thou there might be a few radicals, they cant have much say cps im 99% sure that more than 99% of indian tails want to be part of india.why would they not, they arent getting discriminated or killed. |
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10-19-2006, 14:19 PM
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if india was on good terms with the ltte, im sure that india could have used LTTE knowhow to take the war back into pakistan and into their training camps of the kahmiri militants on a guirilla way
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Indian SFs are one of the best, even Americans undergo training at the facility in NE India.
Moreover to take on Pakistani terrorists masquerading as Kashmiris, we need SFs who look like Pakistanis and most Tamils don't look like Pakistanis |
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10-19-2006, 14:22 PM
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ofcourse not... Khalistanis never used children as weapons of war... only religious places as battlegrounds... |
ah , but u know what i really meant right? ok no need to put it on words here
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maybe, maybe not... LTTE would probably like to think that it is because of them, but could it also possibly be that the SL government had a change of heart??? After 1984, the Congress government allowed mobs to massacre Sikhs in Delhi as the Police watched on... but then again, times change, people change...
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tronic, u dont realise how much terror the idea of an LTTE attack strickes into the hearts of the sinhalese in the south. belive me, they are terrified, when ever the sl army kills tamils. and they know full well that the Sl army is helpless and soo pathetic when it comes to defending its borders, cos the LTTE strickes whereever they want to with impunity.
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SIYANTHA WANASEKERA, BUSINESSMAN
From where I live, I could see everything that happened.
First, some boats came very slowly to the checkpoint and then one of them exploded. After that some other boats came very quickly from the sea straight into the navy camp. I think one or two of them exploded too.
It was unbelievable.
Then everyone in our area was in a panic. The navy came and evacuated people. Many ran away. Some of us still haven't let the women and children back into our homes.
We heard that some attackers may have escaped into town. The police are searching unoccupied buildings. They could hide anywhere. We were hit badly by the tsunami and there are still many half-built buildings, old water tanks where people could be.
So the men in my area are staying at home. But the children are really scared.
JANINE MAPURANGA, FILM-MAKER
Everybody said that Galle was incredibly safe
We first heard the news when we got up this morning. There was a lot of commotion. We live about 25km inland from Galle on an old tea estate that is now an organic garden. We didn't see or hear anything.
We have about 28 Sinhalese workers who were very agitated and very afraid. The manager immediately sent everyone home and he stayed on to make sure the estate didn't get looted.
Since I have been in Galle, all Sri Lankans and all foreigners have been very dismissive of anything happening here. Everybody said that Galle was incredibly safe.
So this morning, when I saw our workers, I could see the look of disbelief on their faces. They couldn't imagine that their world had just been broken.
One of the workers here told me that her husband's friend, a navy soldier, had been killed. A good friend of ours who lives in the centre of Galle mentioned there had been some looting.
MAHINDA KOMALLGE, LECTURER
Calm has been restored to the city after the morning's attacks
I live in Karapitiya, which is where the main hospital in Galle is. In the morning there was great panic. The explosion happened just before school started. I heard the blast from my home. It was like nothing I had heard before.
Until we got the news, we didn't know what had happened. We suspected that it might be a bomb blast because of the security situation in the country but we didn't think it could really happen in Galle.
I saw many of the injured being brought to the hospital here.
After the explosions, the roads were blocked. There was panic. No vehicles were allowed through to the main centre because security personnel wanted to avoid people going to the danger area.
Because there is a school close to the naval base, parents were desperate to get there. People wanted to know if their loved ones were alright.
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