Zeng

zraver sir, The dear neighbors of China may feel offended by your comment like that

I feel a little bit funny that China is accused by an American for being “imperialist bully”

zraver sir, Do you really think that it is necessary for US to build an alliance with so many countries to contain China? I didn't think that China has become such a power that deserves so much attention at least not in 30 to 50 years. If big Uncle Sam really needs to make so much effort to contain China, I will start to feel a little bit proud

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zraver

nevertheless China's claims rely on ancietn maps and artifacts to over coem the fact that China doe snot directly border the area.


Tibet, Vietnam, North Korea, India, Pakistan, Russia, Mongolia, its own native non-han population these are all disputes since 49 some resolved peacefully, most not resovled or not done so peacefully.

Yes, 1.6 billion people witha racist outlook, and a massive manufacturing base with several on going disputes and a history of provocative acts. Better to build the allaince now then need it later and not have time to build it.

xinhui

Yes, 1.6 billion people witha racist outlook


Looks like the cat is out of the bag.




China Racks Up Points as Bush Team Snubs Asia: William Pesek
Bloomberg.com: Opinion
By William Pesek

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George W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice

Aug. 1 (Bloomberg) -- First came word that George W. Bush was blowing off Southeast Asia. Then Condoleezza Rice did the same. Next comes counting the costs of the U.S. ignoring the world's most vibrant economic region.

U.S. President Bush last month postponed talks with Southeast Asian leaders in September in Singapore. A week later, Secretary of State Rice scrapped her trip to Manila, where the Association of Southeast Asian Nations is meeting this week.

ASEAN confabs often are inane talkfests that achieve little. If the average American knows about the group, it may be from viewing the YouTube clip of Rice's predecessor, Colin Powell, singing the Village People's ``YMCA'' at a 2004 ASEAN gathering. And Bush and Rice are focused on shoring up support for the war in Iraq.

Yet now is hardly the time for the U.S. to be slighting and alienating Asia's fast-growing economies. U.S. complacency toward Asia is enabling China to make greater inroads into a region that once was near the top of America's commercial and foreign-policy agendas.

China has been beset by bad public relations of late. Its product-safety scandal is a case in point. So are concerns that worsening pollution will derail the economy. And then, there are the actual growth figures. China advanced 11.9 percent in the second quarter, fanning concerns about overheating.

Asian Trade

For now, though, rapid Chinese growth is proving to be far more of a blessing than a curse for Southeast Asia. At a time when U.S. trade with ASEAN has barely budged since 2000, China is blanketing the region with an aggressive charm offensive.

Once upon a time, Japan was the big Asian power and, statistically speaking, it still should be. A $2.6 trillion economy would seem no match for Japan's $4.5 trillion worth of output. Chinese growth, though, has become far more important to Asian neighbors. Over the last seven years alone, China's trade with ASEAN's 10 member countries has more than doubled.

Five years ago, Asian leaders viewed China as a threat; now the focus is on riding its boom. China's growing economic, cultural and military influence is impossible to miss traveling around the region these days.

That's not to say China's rise is all good. Cheap labor and loose environmental standards mean China is a tough place with which to compete. An undervalued yuan comes with costs to Asian neighbors experiencing a big increase in their currencies. The Thai baht, for example, is up almost 20 percent versus the U.S. dollar this year. The Philippine peso is up 8 percent.

China's Rise

Asia's developing economies also may be relying too much on another developing one. While we are all used to China beating the odds and avoiding a crash, Asia's No. 2 economy faces daunting -- and growing -- risks.

China needs rapid growth to reduce poverty and dispose of bad loans in the banking system, while also cooling things down to avoid inflation and asset bubbles. It must keep pollution from overwhelming its outlook and figure out how to build a market economy while limiting free expression. Lots could go wrong in China.

At the moment, China is investing in Asia and becoming a viable trading partner where the U.S. once dominated. Supporters will say Bush and Rice are distracted by events in Iraq. Yet that's just the point. Bush's foreign-policy blunders are taking energy and attention away from where they should be.

U.S. Is Distracted

This is the second time in three years Rice has snubbed Southeast Asia. The region, let's remember, holds massive amounts of Treasuries, reducing U.S. interest rates. It boasts many of the most lucrative markets and is home to a number of geopolitically vital nations with which the U.S. should be building deeper ties.

Such inattention has enabled China to fill the void. ASEAN Secretary-General Ong Keng Yong says a free-trade agreement with China is on track to be completed in 2010. The U.S., by contrast, ``is terribly distracted by other things,'' Ong says.

It's odd, really. U.S. officials are increasingly worried about China's military spending and global aspirations. This week's 27-member ASEAN Regional Forum offers a perfect opportunity to engage Asia. Instead, the U.S. is essentially forfeiting the event to an ascendant China.

When the Bush administration has engaged Asia it has been all terrorism all the time. Security is important to Asians, though it's hardly the main issue on their minds. Most care just as much about raising living standards. And the U.S. Treasury seems to have become an all-China-all-the-time operation. It's obsessed with the yuan at the expense of all else in Asia.

Wrong Impressions

Two decades from now, when the Bush administration's legacy is debated by historians, how the U.S. lost Asia will probably receive prominent attention.

The U.S. is by far the world's largest economy and it's likely to hold that title 20 years from now. Yet the Asian vacuum of the Bush years is doing potentially irreparable harm in a region still smarting over the 1997-1998 crisis.

Back then, a slow response to meltdowns in Thailand, Indonesia and South Korea convinced many that the U.S. didn't care about Asia. Justified or not, that impression persists today. By sending deputy John Negroponte in her place to Manila, Rice is buttressing the perception the U.S. is turning its back on the world's most promising economies.

To contact the writer of this column: William Pesek in Tokyo at wpesek@bloomberg.net

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zraver,

so, all chinese have a racist outlook, yes? pardon me, but that sentence sounds...could it be...rather racist.

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Rockrocks

The day is not come that China stratically NEEDED the spartly islands.

Zeng

zraver,

Your above statement is a racist comment toward Chinese people and can not be justified.

captchasep

The author of this article proposes a solution that may appeal to those inclined to liberalism. Long but there's a picture on page three that pretty much summerizes the paper. I guess a picture's worth 28 pages of words...The conclusion:


It is predicted that some kind of joint development, in no matter what form,
can be arranged for the disputed area in the South China Sea provided that all
the interested parties have the intention and good will to exert necessary
efforts in reaching the agreement.

I say it's never going to happen but it's the only solution I've heard in this whole thread.

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China Brief
Volume 8, Issue 3 (January 31, 2008) | Download PDF Version

Taiwan Lands on the Spratlys

By Russell Hsiao
On January 21, the Taiwan-based newspaper United Daily News reported that a C-130 transport aircraft in the Taiwan (ROC) Air Force conducted a one-day mission to the Spratly Islets, whose sovereignty is contested by Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, China, Malaysia and the Philippines (United Daily News [Taiwan], January 21). The mission's purpose is to test Taiwan's recently completed 3,795-feet landing strip on the fortified Taiping islet, whose completion was confirmed by Taiwan Minister of Defense Lee Tien-yu on January 29 (Wen Wei Pao, January 30). The project began in mid-2006 but its progress has largely been kept carefully under wraps by the Taiwan Ministry of Defense.

The route that Taiwanese military aircrafts use to reach the islets passes through an area of the Philippine's air information zone. The Taiwan-based newspaper Liberty Times reported that Taiwan obtained approval for passage from the Philippine Authorities for the purpose of "humanitarian rescue" (rendao jiuyuan) training, however, the Philippine's de facto embassy in Taiwan denied that the embassy ever received any such request (Liberty Times [Taiwan], January 30; Central News Agency [Taiwan], January 30).

According to the Taiwan Ministry of Defense, the landing strip reflects and strengthens Taiwan's sovereignty over the disputed islets. Moreover, the facility will allow Taiwan to demonstrate its capacity to be a constructive member in the global village, since the Ministry claims that the troops and facilities located on the islet will be able to provide logistic and emergency support to passing commercial ships and aircraft that encounter a crisis within its proximity. The Ministry insists that the strip would be used primarily for maritime rescue use and not for any offensive preparations for war (ETtoday [Taiwan], January 25).

Taiwanese newspapers widely speculate that President Chen Shui-bian will make a trip to the Spratly Islets either prior to the island's March 22 presidential elections or possibly even before the Lunar New Year, which starts on February 7. According to a report carried by the Hong Kong newspaper Wen Wei Pao, Defense Minister Lee reportedly stated that he is ready to prepare for such a visit, but has to receive a specific directive from President Chen (Wen Wei Pao, January 30). The idea was reportedly discussed between Defense Minister Lee and President Chen during a meeting on January 21 (China Times, January 24). President Chen makes annual visits to the Taiwan-administered islands of Kinmen and Matsu, as well as other military facilities to boost troop morale stationed along Taiwan's frontline to China. The Ministry of Defense insists that such a proposed trip should be considered as a routine inspection of military units.
Experts on military affairs speculate that since the F-16s' fuel capacity is incapable of making the full length of the islet trip to escort the president, which is some 960 miles from Taiwan's southern Kaohsiung city, the navy would probably send a Kidd-class destroyer to escort the president's aircraft for the remaining 155 miles to the islet (China Times, January 24; United Daily News [Taiwan], January 20).



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So, then ... It was wrong?

xinhui

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if you don't know there is something wrong with "that" statement, I really don't know what to say.

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Insensitive ... rude?
I'm not debating "that" ... I don't have much time for national "feelings"
Was it wrong?
Lets move along to the "history" part ... I'm hazy ... Are America and Brittain the only Imperialist dogs?

bolo121

Hmmm well speaking from personal experience way back when i was in uni
20 out of my class of 32 were chinese. I have never met such stuck up people and such ill concealed arrogance before in my life.
Heck i actually got on fine with the white folk.

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Officer of Engineers

Of course it's wrong.

Loaded question. There is no doubt China has experienced imperialism both as a victim and as a victor but by far, Chinese expansion has been historically limited to the Asian continent. Neither India nor China saw anything of worth in the rest of the world.

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Wait up guys! I have noted some evidence of ethnocentricity absolutely every where I have been (deployed) I'd say it's normal ... furthermore, some "peoples'" sense of national pride may miscontrued as ... well, Iether that or Chinnese just don't like any one else iether. French seem to posses a distain for, me you, maybe them too. Americans get the nod for the R word towards non whites ... Her Majesties subjects ... well we all know they wrote the book on being called Haughty ... Russians? Every shade of color has its view, in both dirrections ... correction all 3 (or more)
watch this
....I'm going to "count coup" on this hornets nest ...
Racism is when any one of an ethnisity, other that of the accused's, takes offence, to any observation made.
Like I said, I don't have time for national "feelings" We can leave that to the touchy feely, more liberal types.
So! if they squawk ... Blame it all on insensitivty, (the type brought on by accute enviromental reaction syndrome )
Tell'em you've been afflicted (all that traumma right?) with Tourrets, and shout ...Shee-yuhtup! Just answer the fooking kwezshuns!