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Reply With QuoteThe Aug is really a full-length assault rifle, the M-4 is a carbine, so they're not really comparable.
Both have inherent advantadges and disadvantadges.
I prefer non-bullpups myself.
Might be a kind of silly topic….
Which guys do you think is better for combat missions in say the jungle, the AUG or M-4. Let’s say for an army, which has used 5.56mm guns since the 1960s. I’m asking this because I see a good number of M-16 users having both the AUG and M-4 on missions in many South East Asian nations for example.
And please no M-4 becuase it's American or AUG becuase it is not
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The Aug is really a full-length assault rifle, the M-4 is a carbine, so they're not really comparable.
Both have inherent advantadges and disadvantadges.
I prefer non-bullpups myself.
Isn't there a conversion (or just plain different version) of the AUG that can be converted to a carbine? Or have I been drinking again?
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a bullpup? To have a full length barrel in a shorter weapon?Originally posted by TopHatter
Isn't there a conversion (or just plain different version) of the AUG that can be converted to a carbine? Or have I been drinking again?
Chimo
Yeah, they make one of those, but i agree with the Colonel, it's kind of stupid.
I personally would want the M-14 the para is carrying in the photo.
The AUG is too uncomfortable when firing from prone position, and the lack of iron sights can be a disadvantage, however all-in-all I think it is a better all around rifle than the M16/M4.
The AUG is more practical, you can convert it to a carbine, a submachine gun and a light support weapon.
Last edited by s_qwert63; 04 Nov 03, at 17:54.
Personally I just find it wierd that M-16 using armies in some nations will buy the AUG as well. I have seen pics of SEA special forces carrying both the AUG and M-4 so I was wondering if one can be thought of as better then the other.
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Of course sniper would prefer the M-14 of that Flippino scout ranger, he would probably take a kentucky rifle over a FAMAS but thats a different story...........
"he would probably take a kentucky rifle over a FAMAS but thats a different story..........."
Well actually, yeah.
BTW, it's PENNSYLVANIA long rifle.
SQUIRT...
"however all-in-all I think it is a better all around rifle than the M16/M4."
Based on what?
It's flexibility and good all round statistics, the tendency to jam less in extreme conditions.
but I would pick an AKM over any rifle.
Apparently being able to HIT a target is of less consideration.Originally posted by s_qwert63
It's flexibility and good all round statistics, the tendency to jam less in extreme conditions.
but I would pick an AKM over any rifle.
Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.
LOL, an AKM?
Are you kidding me?
Over any rifle?
Now i know you're whacked...
The AKM? I guess he just wants to be able to pull the trigger a hope to keep peoples heads down.........
I have fired both, the M16 and the AKM.Originally posted by M21Sniper
LOL, an AKM?
Are you kidding me?
Over any rifle?
Now i know you're whacked...
It is true, on a well lit, grassed shooting range the M16 would prove to be more effective then the AK.
But in true battle conditions the AKM/AK 74 is much better and much more practical.
My friend was in a paratroop unit on the Afghan-Tadjik border, he said that he would choose the AK over any rifle. once they were practicing disembarkation from a BMD, so they drove them into the middle of a sand storm, they had to disembark, crawl 50 meters to their firing positions and then fire on silhouettes.
He had an AK74M, so when they got out, the sandstorm was so thick that a lot of sand got into the receiver. When they were crawling, a lot sand entered the muzzle as well. At the firing position his AK worked just fine.
Would the M16 perform just as well?
It is a good rifle but it should be kept clean and sand/mud/water free at all times to be efective. It's dioptic sight might give it better accuracy, but in unlit areas and at night it is very hard to see/identify the target because of the nature of the sights.
Ever heard of semi-automatic? wacko...Apparently being able to HIT a target is of less consideration.
Does the fact that the AK is the most proliferated rifle in history tell you anything?
Does the fact that most small arms engagements take place on a distance of 100-300 meters tell you anything?
...Originally posted by troung
The AKM? I guess he just wants to be able to pull the trigger a hope to keep peoples heads down.........
did you have any experience with an AK?
WTF did you ever play left field in a baseball game?Originally posted by s_qwert63
Ever heard of semi-automatic? wacko...
People are either poor or stupid... usually both.Originally posted by s_qwert63
Does the fact that the AK is the most proliferated rifle in history tell you anything?
Yep it does it tells me I need a rifle that I can rely on to shoot straight from 100 meters to 300 meters.Originally posted by s_qwert63
Does the fact that most small arms engagements take place on a distance of 100-300 meters tell you anything?
Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.
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