Thread: Best Assault Rifle?

Originally Posted by War Angel

Did I say I WAS an officer? I just said a 20 year-old Israeli soldier could very well be one.

You seem to assume too much.

A 20 year old Israeli Soldier (pst! Try using the term IDF) that talks like a Brit and doesn't know the difference between a Kalishnakov and Armalite's. And yes there is a difference.

Now fire away with the anti-Semetic accusation like you did when Snipe insulted Judaism by calling you a smacked ass.

Originally Posted by shek

I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you

Fraud

Well it's good form to give a reason why you'd kill him.

And in case you handn't noticed, the last number on his IP is 187...and doesn't match up with the Jewish Assassin's/Manhattan punk's

Originally Posted by War Angel

Congratulations, you've just exposed yourself as the ignorant, anti-semite, backwards bastard that you are.

See ya.

I'll have you know that mr. Ross is very fond of that nickname. Sooo ninga-ninga-naaaa-naaaaa!!!!!

LOL....i love this place.

Originally Posted by shadowdevil502

Geez, what is wrong with you guys? The guy says he's from Israel, someone else confirms it, he chooses not to divulge information and just because he doesn't match the previous stereotype of "real" military people you start calling him a fraud?

BTW I voted G36, give me a reliable weapon over a pretty one any day. (M16)

If you had ANY idea how many times we've gone through this drill you'd understand.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Gentlemen, lest we forget criticisms beget criticisms and yet yield intellectual concersation for all when chance allows. Good and bad.

Oh jesus....thanx for the input Dr. Freud.

LOL....

Originally Posted by War Angel

Thank you for being a voice of logic and reason.

He has only been posting here 2 days. He doesn't know any better.

Once he's been here long enough he'll know the proper response when addressing posing trolls:

"Go fucck yourself".

Originally Posted by shek

Shadow,

His country of origin is of little concern on this board. If you look at the Israel/Palestine board, you won't find too many PLO/PA/Hamas/Fatah supporters.

However, the fact that he's raised the suspicions of four members of this board representing both the NCO Corps and Officer Corps (both company and field grade) across three different countries with probably around 50 years total of military experience doesn't bode well for his case. His reasoning for not wanting to disclose information doesn't jive with his story (I can't tell you because I shouldn't be posting on a message board ) nor with the fact that some of his fellow countrymen appear not to feel so constricted with what they post.

That doesn't mean that we are authoritative, but armies tend to be people organizations, and so it's the business of leaders to know people and to form judgements as to whether or not a person is trustworthy and if he should be on your flank in battle. Given that all four members have actually been in combat before and have had to rely on this trained instinct to judge people, this is not something that I would take lightly. Once again, though, that is for you to decide.

If he shouldn't be posting, then he shouldn't be here. If it's not an issue, then he has no reason not to divulge some simple facts that don't jeopardize operational security or techniques, etc. When challenged on this, he's fallen back onto an anti-Semitic defense as if it invokes some kind of moral fifth amendment or something.

Bottomline, his story is self-contradictory.

You're an accomplished diplomat sir. I'm jealous of your people skills(seriously).

I'd have just told the kid to STFU while we work, as he might learn something in the process if he could keep his head out of his ass long enough.

LOL....

Indeed it is a kinder and gentler military nowadays. I shoulda seen this coming when the Army banned the cadence "Napalm sticks to kids".

You new guys are so sensitive to decorum. I didn't even know what the hell decurum was first time my CO spat the word out...i had to look it up.

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

You're such a diplomat sir. I'm jealous of your people skills.

Your job didn't include begging for money. Ours did.

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Your job didn't include begging for money. Ours did.

Good point. I just bribed the neccesary NCO with some beer if me or my guys needed something. Much different approach.

War Angel has given me a little bit of info about his career, and it seems realistic enough (although given my lack of military experience I can't say for certain). He has asked me not to repeat it, and while I don't really see the big deal, I will do as he asked. If War Angel is deemed a fraud by mods or admins then we will deal with it (which could well happen soon) . I'm not asking you guys to play nicer with him then you would with any other newbie-who-looks-suspicious, lets try to keep the rhetoric focused on the issue at hand...not, oh say, 14 year old Palestinians

Excuse me! He gave you, a complete stranger he doesn't know, info that he already stated that it was classified? It doesn't work that way. If you're cleared for that info, so are we all.

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

You're an accomplished diplomat sir. I'm jealous of your people skills(seriously).

I'd have just told the kid to STFU while we work, as he might learn something in the process if he could keep his head out of his ass long enough.

LOL....

Indeed it is a kinder and gentler military nowadays. I shoulda seen this coming when the Army banned the cadence "Napalm sticks to kids".

You new guys are so sensitive to decorum. I didn't even know what the hell decurum was first time my CO spat the word out...i had to look it up.

As pretty much OoE said - you're job as a NCO is to provide the tough love (i.e. STFU) so we get to be the good guys

Now, as far as being diplomatic - it has its advantages. The few times I did lose my cool over something, it certainly got the message across (oh sh!t, the CO really is steaming mad this time - we better fix this ASAP or 1SG is going to be knee deep in us!). You know you've done good when your driver and vehicle commander turn to you and say "Damn Sir! That was a good one!"

I was told by Col Drapeau

The Application of Terror is a perfectly acceptable form of communications.

An Recon Team Leader in the Recon Platoon had a theory that learning and disciplined occured through three methods in the Army - pain, repetition, and embarassment. All three are used to incredible effectiveness by the NCO Corps. I found embarassment to be an extremely effective tool to use - not in the sense of putting a guy down in front of the company (except on rare occasion, like the FM net a$$ chewing), but in terms of challenging one's pride.