M-16A2 5.56mm
M-4 5.56mm
SIG-552 5.56mm
G-3 7.62mm
G-36 5.56mm
AUG 5.56mm
FAMAS 5.56mm
FNC 5.56mm
L-85A2 5.56mm
IMI Galil 5.56mm
AK-47 7.62mm
AK-74 5.56mm
AK-101 5.56mm
AK-103 7.62mm
TKB-517 7.62mm
Ummm......respect (especially) junior officers........are you kidding?Originally Posted by War Angel
My rules wrt officers were very simple:
Friendly officers are to be avoided, enemy(OPFOR) officers are to be shot.
I guess we could afford to run our military as half-assed as yours if all we ever faced were a bunch of backwater Arab Palestinians too.
Ooooh........the mighty Israeli CONSCRIPT force, brought to you by free US Governmental handouts.
Now if you'll excuse, i must go pretend to be a sleepy ex-infantryman with bad knees for a while.
PS: If i find out you're actually BR under a new S/N having some fun.... this is exactly the sort of silliness i'd expect from the jewish assassin
Last edited by Bill; 15 Feb 06, at 12:19.
LOL..........super secret FAKE.
It's dicckheads like you that make us have to be skeptical of people in the first goddamned place.
Oh, wait, i forgot....i should not be harrassing you...you have to stand on the wall of freedom and defend western civilization from 14 year old Palestinians throwing rocks.
Please....don't let me keep you.
Congratulations, you've just exposed yourself as the ignorant, anti-semite, backwards bastard that you are.the jewish assassin
See ya.
Genius, he's referring to his Jewish friend. I guess he must hate his Jewish friend (or else he doesn't realize his Jewish friend is Jewish)Congratulations, you've just exposed yourself as the ignorant, anti-semite, backwards bastard that you are.
See ya.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
Geez, what is wrong with you guys? The guy says he's from Israel, someone else confirms it, he chooses not to divulge information and just because he doesn't match the previous stereotype of "real" military people you start calling him a fraud?
BTW I voted G36, give me a reliable weapon over a pretty one any day. (M16)
"By and by when each nation has 20,000 battleships and 5,000,000 soldiers we shall all be safe and the wisdom of statesmanship will stand confirmed."
-- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1902
Shadow, with how many trolls come her to express mad, murederous opinions about religion, race etc. It is a safety net as quite a few here are past/present military.
They do not stereotype and needless to say are pretty fair when you understand how many people come here to vent their anger and post propaganda and some pose as military officers etc. as well. They are watchfull and have rules of engagement and when you insult them well you get what you get. Funny thing is they (trolls) still seem to come back here under a different name until they are redescovered by the troll patrol and discarded. They seem to have their security details down pretty well i might add. And in addition go pretty light on non military personel.
We all know that you are new here but give us a chance and by the way Welcome.
Last edited by Dreadnought; 15 Feb 06, at 20:00.
In that case thanks for the explanation, looking out for trolls is something that happens on many message boards.
When I said stereotype I was thinking about posts that said, "the other military guys I met on the board have been *insert blank* and you haven't been like that, therefore you're a faker".
If the guy is indeed a troll then I understand completely the argument, and since I haven't been here long enough I can't really judge who's a troll and who's not yet. I'd just think that if he really was authentic he'd really get the wrong feeling on this board and I don't approve of that.
But thanks for the heads up, as well as the welcome.
"By and by when each nation has 20,000 battleships and 5,000,000 soldiers we shall all be safe and the wisdom of statesmanship will stand confirmed."
-- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1902
Not a problem
Thank you for being a voice of logic and reason.Geez, what is wrong with you guys? The guy says he's from Israel, someone else confirms it, he chooses not to divulge information and just because he doesn't match the previous stereotype of "real" military people you start calling him a fraud?
Gentlemen, lest we forget criticisms beget criticisms and yet yield intellectual concersation for all when chance allows. Good and bad.
Shadow,
His country of origin is of little concern on this board. If you look at the Israel/Palestine board, you won't find too many PLO/PA/Hamas/Fatah supporters.
However, the fact that he's raised the suspicions of four members of this board representing both the NCO Corps and Officer Corps (both company and field grade) across three different countries with probably around 50 years total of military experience doesn't bode well for his case. His reasoning for not wanting to disclose information doesn't jive with his story (I can't tell you because I shouldn't be posting on a message board) nor with the fact that some of his fellow countrymen appear not to feel so constricted with what they post.
That doesn't mean that we are authoritative, but armies tend to be people organizations, and so it's the business of leaders to know people and to form judgements as to whether or not a person is trustworthy and if he should be on your flank in battle. Given that all four members have actually been in combat before and have had to rely on this trained instinct to judge people, this is not something that I would take lightly. Once again, though, that is for you to decide.
If he shouldn't be posting, then he shouldn't be here. If it's not an issue, then he has no reason not to divulge some simple facts that don't jeopardize operational security or techniques, etc. When challenged on this, he's fallen back onto an anti-Semitic defense as if it invokes some kind of moral fifth amendment or something.
Bottomline, his story is self-contradictory.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
What's so hard to understand, really? I can tell you lots of things - but I cannot discuss my military position, role or duty. It has nothing to do with me being an Israeli - if someone of a similiar role from the US army joined this place, he wouldn't be willing or allowed to speak of it either.
And please, let's leave it at that.
You were the one that was so proud to point out that you are a soldier. If you can't discuss anything, then you shouldn't even have volunteered that you are a secret squirrel soldier. Now you've compromised yourself - anybody hacking into WAB can grab your IP and trace where you're at. Heck, by listing a birthday, you've provided another clue. You should be running full speed to your counterintel office right now and telling them how you f'ed up and never return again to WAB. I know that's what would happen if an indisciplined US soldier that required cover for black ops would do. Of course, they'd probably lose their black ops job, but what's a higher priority - national security or personal security?
Also, once again, trying to play the Israeli card here isn't going to pan out. For the most part, you're preaching to the choir on most Israeli issues.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
Super Squirell Soldier? Black Ops? Jesus Christ... XD
I have yet to say anything I'm not allowed to. I do hope I won't be trippin' over me own tongue. Yes, I'm an Israeli soldier. Yes, I'm proud of being one. Yes, I'm proud of my duty. Sorry that I can't tell you anything about it, I really am. Perhaps if I saw you face to face, on nuetral grounds, and knew exactly who you were. An internet forum is not a suitable place for that.
Anyway, I've got nothing left to say. This is just plain hilarious.
So then why bring it up then... it seems like you wanted to impress everyone here by being a secret agent and are now pulling out strawmen...
By my count that is the second time you have accussed a respected member of that...Congratulations, you've just exposed yourself as the ignorant, anti-semite, backwards bastard that you are
The IDF elite units led the way in Israel in issuing the CAR-15 (throwing Galils and AK-47s into the dustbin for all but S-13) just thought to let you know. Granted you are a super secret commando so you would of course already know that.But.. if you told me to stick to one, it'd be the Kalachnikov. Not accurate, heavy... but more reliable than my old beloved grandma. It will fire no matter what. The same can be said about the Galil... but I'd rather go for the original.
Bill
Always brutally on point...I guess we could afford to run our military as half-assed as yours if all we ever faced were a bunch of backwater Arab Palestinians too. Ooooh........the mighty Israeli CONSCRIPT force, brought to you by free US Governmental handouts. Oh, wait, i forgot....i should not be harrassing you...you have to stand on the wall of freedom and defend western civilization from 14 year old Palestinians throwing rocks.
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