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  • M-16A2 5.56mm

    19 8.56%
  • M-4 5.56mm

    31 13.96%
  • SIG-552 5.56mm

    9 4.05%
  • G-3 7.62mm

    16 7.21%
  • G-36 5.56mm

    51 22.97%
  • AUG 5.56mm

    7 3.15%
  • FAMAS 5.56mm

    4 1.80%
  • FNC 5.56mm

    3 1.35%
  • L-85A2 5.56mm

    8 3.60%
  • IMI Galil 5.56mm

    3 1.35%
  • AK-47 7.62mm

    44 19.82%
  • AK-74 5.56mm

    9 4.05%
  • AK-101 5.56mm

    3 1.35%
  • AK-103 7.62mm

    15 6.76%
  • TKB-517 7.62mm

    0 0%
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    I can confirm from War Angel's IP address that he is in Israel as he claims. Given that, it is not very hard to believe he is in the army since everybody has to be in the army there. Maybe Israel is still using the older model M16 which from what I've heard is less reliable than new models.

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    A 20 year old private ain't going to get his choice of guns. He's going to get his issued, warts and all, and he better have his issued at all times. If he's in the army, he would learn fast and hard that he simply cannot dump his weapon for another on the ground just because it looks nicer. His leaders would have his skin if he did that.
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    Perhaps he was speaking hypothetically about his choice of guns...I don't know, I was just confirming that he at least was not lying about his location, and he lives in a land of universal conscription. Other than that he can speak for himself.

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    This is what got me.

    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    Sometimes, you can't be bothered to clean your rifle every 100 rounds. Sometimes, you have to rely on a weapon. That's when I'll put down my highly-effective, light and comfortable M-16 and take up the oh-so-more-reliable AK-47.

    In any other situation, the AK-47 sucks, because it's not nearly as effective as other ARs.
    I don't know any Sgt would tolerate that kind of BS.
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    Maybe Israel is still using the older model M16 which from what I've heard is less reliable than new models.
    Aye, and those are the ones I spoke about. If I were given a choice between an M-4A1 and a Kalach, I'd pick the M-4, without a doubt. I was also making an exaggeration with the 100 rounds thing, I just wanted to show that sometimes constantly taking care of your rifle is not an option.

    Besides, I WAS speaking hypothetically. I wouldn't in my right mind pick and use an AK-47 in this current setting. It's just that the thing is so reliable (I've had a Galil, which is but a rip-off, and that thing is unbelivable) that it's hard not to admire.

    A 20 year old private
    Not a private. I could be an officer, for all you know.

    His leaders would have his skin if he did that.
    Just what army do you think this is? O_o

    [quote]If he's in the army, he would learn fast and hard that he simply cannot dump his weapon for another on the ground just because it looks nicer.[/quote
    Who said anything about dumping weapons and picking others? This isn't a 3D shooting game.

    The AK-47 remains a remarkable weapon, merely for being so reliable. Special Forces used it up untill not too long ago (i.e, before the Flat-tops), because many of them faced captivity, among other things. Having a weapon that would fire under ANY condition was a must - even if you were deep in enemy territory, with no available 5.56mm ammunition, and no means of effectively cleaning your gun.

    The M-4 is quite reliable enough, especially considering today's battles do not last months and years, but as little as a few minutes.

    I don't know any Sgt would tolerate that kind of BS.
    I wouldn't care much for any sergeant. The Israeli army is not the American army - we run things quite differently.

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    Warangel: "A 20 year old private

    Not a private. I could be an officer, for all you know."

    Well, we know you're a smacked ass. So yes, you could also be an officer. You have the #1 pre-requisite already.

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    Well, we know you're a smacked ass. So yes, you could also be an officer. You have the #1 pre-requisite already.
    Again, you project American Army values on the Israeli army. It doesn't work like that here.

    Officers risk their lives and give their time for the saving of lives, as does any other soldier in the Israeli army. Speaking ill of them is not respectable.

    As a soldier, you should realise that. If you are a soldier, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    Not a private. I could be an officer, for all you know.
    Wow, you said in another thread that you shouldn't be posting on the board and now you want to throw out the possibility of being an officer? Your story gets better by the minute.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    Wow, you said in another thread that you shouldn't be posting on the board and now you want to throw out the possibility of being an officer?
    Did I say I WAS an officer? I just said a 20 year-old Israeli soldier could very well be one.

    You seem to assume too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    Did I say I WAS an officer? I just said a 20 year-old Israeli soldier could very well be one.

    You seem to assume too much.
    You like to imply. I still think you're a fraud. I've never seen a soldier jump right into this forum praising their service on high. They either join with quiet professionalism and/or demonstrate through their technical and tactical competence in discussions that they are without a doubt a real life soldier. So far, you've demonstrated neither, but have been evasive about answering questions. Maybe I'm wrong, but in either case, I'm not impressed in the least.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    They either join with quiet professionalism and/or demonstrate through their technical and tactical competence in discussions that they are without a doubt a real life soldier
    I am not a quiet professional, that's one thing. Second, this board does not contain forums for my area of expertise - and even if it did, you can bet your ass I wouldn't be divulging any of my professional knowledge in that area. That's reserved for my duty and my duty alone. I won't discuss it with thousands of strangers on-line, that's for sure.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but in either case, I'm not impressed in the least.
    You're wrong, and it's a good thing I'm not trying to impress you. I just know I'm following conduct.

    Anyway, this is really, really off-topic. I'll stop discussing it now, as I've said everything I possibly could've.
    Last edited by War Angel; 14 Feb 06, at 23:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    I am not a quiet professional, that's one thing. Second, this board does not contain forums for my area of expertise - and even if it did, you can bet your ass I wouldn't be divulging any of my professional knowledge in that area. That's reserved for my duty and my duty alone. I won't discuss it with thousands of strangers on-line, that's for sure.


    You're wrong, and it's a good thing I'm not trying to impress you. I just know I'm following conduct.

    Anyway, this is really, really off-topic. I'll stop discussing it now, as I've said everything I possibly could've.
    I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you

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    Whatever you say, I'm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    I am not a quiet professional, that's one thing. Second, this board does not contain forums for my area of expertise
    So what is your area of expertise?....I am sure that naming your trade will not let out a state secret.

    Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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    I voted G-36,
    but this is what I am trained to use:
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