Thread: Best SMG?

Originally Posted by Andy-GER

And we had two incidents (clumsy recruits try to enter a house, better don´t ask), where Uzi´s fell on the floor, and released a shot. Maybe they were too old, we cleaned them to death or something, but i hated them.

that isn,t uncomon with uzi, my friend was in israil army, that sort of things happened often, they used it to their advantage.

Originally Posted by omon

that isn,t uncomon with uzi, my friend was in israil army, that sort of things happened often, they used it to their advantage.

You mean they threw it as a diversion device?

I have once read a horror story about the quality of British Sten submachine guns. One recruit tumbled over a kettle in the field kitchen, his Sten gun fell, and promptly emptied the contents of its magazine.

Originally Posted by Triple C

You mean they threw it as a diversion device?

I have once read a horror story about the quality of British Sten submachine guns. One recruit tumbled over a kettle in the field kitchen, his Sten gun fell, and promptly emptied the contents of its magazine.

The Sten gun was the nastiest sub-machine gun of all time. Of course it was very cheap which would have endeared it to the treasury. I seem to remember being told that it cost five shillings to make, so for every £1 the nation got 4 of the beastly little things.

Originally Posted by Triple C

I have once read a horror story about the quality of British Sten submachine guns. One recruit tumbled over a kettle in the field kitchen, his Sten gun fell, and promptly emptied the contents of its magazine.

IIRC, FWIW, in the general interest of firearms trivia, Capt. Gal engineered the grip safety into the Uzi because one of his buddies jumped off a truck with a loaded, cocked STEN gun and when he hit the ground the weapon discharged with predictable results for a STEN gun causing death and injury.

William

Originally Posted by Andy-GER

Hi there,




Interesting, how different our experiences are.

I used Uzi´s (Military) and MP5´s (Police) in duty, and i had very bad experiences with the Uzi. The magazines fell out accidentially. When it became hot, it "doubled" or even fired short bursts, though the lever was adjusted to single shot.

And we had two incidents (clumsy recruits try to enter a house, better don´t ask), where Uzi´s fell on the floor, and released a shot. Maybe they were too old, we cleaned them to death or something, but i hated them.

I have never had any problems with our MP5´s for 15 years now. I have none personally assigned, i take one out of the rack. Well, i´m one of those door-kickers, and if i would have to do a raid with an Uzi, i would chose my handgun instead.

Andy

Andy,

That is very interesting.

Do you know what your MP5s use for roller retention? Standard bars or "French clips" or something else? I wonder if your MP5s maybe have a much lower round count than most I have used? Do you have any SDs? If so, do you know if any of your SDs have had to be returned to HK because the suppressor was too packed with residue for bullets to exit properly? [We have had this happen a few times]

I have seen well-worn Uzis double when hot, but this happens in a lot of guns, so I just accept it as common. Let me say, I do prefer the mini-Uzi to the full size, because it fits a lot better in a holster.

-Jeff.