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Old 06-27-2005, 17:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Good gun for diving?

I've recently bought a 36ft sailing boat and am planning some diving trips to the red sea. I was thinking about buying a gun for general protection and which can also fire underwater, for sharks and stuff (i seen jaws a few too many times ).

I hear glocks fires a short distance without the barrel splitting, any recommendations?


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Old 06-27-2005, 19:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you fire a gun underwater, not only will you have one shot (if you charge it before you go in the water), but when you do, your eardrums will pop.

My coip told me that the only gun that you can fire underwater is the glock, but he may be wrong because he was way too biased for glocks.
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Old 06-27-2005, 19:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Any gun will fire underwater once.

If you want a repeatable capability, you'd need a manual action, such as a bolt, pump, or lever.

However if shooting under water is the primary use, one would be much, much better served by a speargun.
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Old 06-27-2005, 20:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A bangstick is much more effective for sharks if you are underwater.
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Old 06-27-2005, 20:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"A bangstick is much more effective for sharks if you are underwater."

They make those for spearguns too don't they?(i don't know much about diving).
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Old 06-27-2005, 20:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've never seen one for a speargun, but I see no reason why it couldn't be done. It would bleed off speed pretty fast and be front heavy, but shark business is all close range anyhow.

To the OP- Sharks aren't really dangerous to divers, typically it is swimmers on the surface that get attacked. Sharks know you are not their normal fare. It's the guy on a boogie board that has to worry. When I dive, I carry a Hawaiian Sling, but that's just to get some dinner. I have never been messed with by a shark.

Your biggest concern should be predators of the two-legged variety.
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Old 06-27-2005, 20:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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...but I have been known to mess with them. Hehe Here is a Great White that got interested in my cooler that was full of tuna carcasses.
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Old 06-27-2005, 20:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm sure Hokum feels much better after seeing the picture. I would recommend visiting a diving store, or two.
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Old 06-27-2005, 22:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Just don't get a normal firearm. It's the stupid way to go (which is very hard for me to say, but I must say it, because it is the right thing to say).
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Old 06-28-2005, 13:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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the SPP-1 may be a good idea but i don't know how easy it is to get one
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Old 06-28-2005, 15:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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sharks are the least of your concern when diving. the most obvious danger is decompression sickness, but if your worried about critters, sharks at at the end of the list.

i would invest more in skin protection, because your more likely to be injured by jellyfish/fire coral or other harful ndirian (sp?). im not what the conditions in the red sea are like though
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Old 06-28-2005, 18:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm sure Hokum feels much better after seeing the picture. I would recommend visiting a diving store, or two.
Yeah real reassuring lol

I'll look into bangsticks,

i thought about a speargun but didnt like the idea of only having one shot per 10s or whatever its reload time is

Now that you mention it i've seen a lot of vids with people diving around tiger sharks etc, however i'd feel a lot safer in the abyss having something like that SPP-1, i'll ask around about it
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Old 06-28-2005, 19:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Trust me, that Russian icepick isn't going to do sh*t to a shark. I'd pick a 12 gauge bangstick for shark protection, and a .357 powerhead for hunting big fish with a speargun.

http://www.billssportshop.com/gaffs/gaffs4.html

http://www.beco-products.com/beco_357_powerhead.htm

edit to add: I STRONGLY recommend you get specialized training before attempting to use something like these.

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Old 06-29-2005, 15:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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the SPP-1 may be a good idea but i don't know how easy it is to get one
I was just about to say the APS underwater assault rifle.

And I wouldn't get anything that takes firearm ammunition. Shoot one underwater, and bye bye go your ears permanently.
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Old 06-29-2005, 16:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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...And I wouldn't get anything that takes firearm ammunition. Shoot one underwater, and bye bye go your ears permanently.
Bullsh*t.
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