Last Samurai gun question

Beaugeste93 · 06-18-2005, 13:28 PM

HBO has been playing the heck out the The Last Samurai lately. Can anyone tell me what kind of rifles the Japanese army are carrying towards the end of the film? They started with rifle muskets, but ended up with a single shot bolt rifle with blade bayonet. Its not a Gras, as it had a spike bayonet. They may be 1871 Mausers but I am not sure. They could also be 1871 Ward-Burtons but I don't know of anyone who makes repros of those. Definitely not Remington-Lees or anything like that. You'd think that the US would give them trapdoors. Any ideas? I'm a historical movie nit picker and its bugging me

sniperdude411 · 06-18-2005, 22:52 PM

It's been a really long time since I've seen that movie; and sadly I couldn't find it on the internet.

That's more than bizarre.

Speedy · 06-19-2005, 11:21 AM

Haven't seen it for a while myself but from memory I think they were mausers, I could of course be wrong though.
Hope that helps

Anon · 06-19-2005, 12:03 PM

Going strictly by memory they looked like Mausers.

sniperdude411 · 06-20-2005, 23:25 PM

German weapons in Japan?
I don't know...

leib10 · 06-21-2005, 00:16 AM

Hollywood...

Speedy · 06-21-2005, 06:06 AM

Mausers were the best military rifle around in the late 19th century.

sniperdude411 · 06-21-2005, 09:40 AM

Was the Kar 98 the first Mauser?
If so, the weapons could have been springfield 1896s, if the time fits. I can't remember when the last battle took place.

leib10 · 06-21-2005, 18:21 PM

No, the Kar98 was not the first Mauser. The M/71 was the first Mauser.

sniperdude411 · 06-22-2005, 20:12 PM

Well, if anyone has watched this movie, please tell us when the last battle took place.

Beaugeste93 · 06-23-2005, 14:55 PM

I think its supposed to be 1877 or early 1878... All the rifles look brand new, so they have to be repros, even movie weapons supply places aren't going to have that many new looking weapons...especially something more obscure like Dreyse, 1871 mausers, etc.

sniperdude411 · 06-26-2005, 19:54 PM

Hahaha, We'll never know.............................................. .................................................. ........

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ChrisF202 · 06-27-2005, 11:03 AM

Could they be Chesepots?

sniperdude411 · 06-27-2005, 18:50 PM

You mean the guns?
Never heard of that before; not my type of interests.

Aryan · 06-29-2005, 06:00 AM

Contrary to what the film showed, it was the Germans (Prussians) who modernised the Japanese army. That would agree with the Mauser theory.

06-18-2005, 13:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Beaugeste93 Patron Join Date: 02-10-05 Posts: 200	Last Samurai gun question HBO has been playing the heck out the The Last Samurai lately. Can anyone tell me what kind of rifles the Japanese army are carrying towards the end of the film? They started with rifle muskets, but ended up with a single shot bolt rifle with blade bayonet. Its not a Gras, as it had a spike bayonet. They may be 1871 Mausers but I am not sure. They could also be 1871 Ward-Burtons but I don't know of anyone who makes repros of those. Definitely not Remington-Lees or anything like that. You'd think that the US would give them trapdoors. Any ideas? I'm a historical movie nit picker and its bugging me __________________ Rule 303

06-21-2005, 00:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
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06-18-2005, 22:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
sniperdude411 Thats me with my precious *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Lancaster PA, (Crystal Lake IL). Posts: 1,189	It's been a really long time since I've seen that movie; and sadly I couldn't find it on the internet. That's more than bizarre.

06-19-2005, 11:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Speedy Regular Join Date: 11-24-04 Location: Australia Posts: 105 Country:	Haven't seen it for a while myself but from memory I think they were mausers, I could of course be wrong though. Hope that helps

06-19-2005, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	Going strictly by memory they looked like Mausers.

06-20-2005, 23:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
sniperdude411 Thats me with my precious *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Lancaster PA, (Crystal Lake IL). Posts: 1,189	German weapons in Japan? I don't know...

06-21-2005, 06:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Speedy Regular Join Date: 11-24-04 Location: Australia Posts: 105 Country:	Mausers were the best military rifle around in the late 19th century.

06-21-2005, 09:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
sniperdude411 Thats me with my precious *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Lancaster PA, (Crystal Lake IL). Posts: 1,189	Was the Kar 98 the first Mauser? If so, the weapons could have been springfield 1896s, if the time fits. I can't remember when the last battle took place.

06-21-2005, 18:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
leib10 HKHolic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-17-05 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,240 Country:	No, the Kar98 was not the first Mauser. The M/71 was the first Mauser.

06-22-2005, 20:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
sniperdude411 Thats me with my precious *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Lancaster PA, (Crystal Lake IL). Posts: 1,189	Well, if anyone has watched this movie, please tell us when the last battle took place.

06-23-2005, 14:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Beaugeste93 Patron Join Date: 02-10-05 Posts: 200	I think its supposed to be 1877 or early 1878... All the rifles look brand new, so they have to be repros, even movie weapons supply places aren't going to have that many new looking weapons...especially something more obscure like Dreyse, 1871 mausers, etc.

06-26-2005, 19:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
sniperdude411 Thats me with my precious *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Lancaster PA, (Crystal Lake IL). Posts: 1,189	Hahaha, We'll never know.............................................. .................................................. ........ ............ ........ .... .. .

06-27-2005, 11:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,576 Country:	Could they be Chesepots?

06-27-2005, 18:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
sniperdude411 Thats me with my precious *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Lancaster PA, (Crystal Lake IL). Posts: 1,189	You mean the guns? Never heard of that before; not my type of interests.

06-29-2005, 06:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
Aryan Banished Join Date: 05-02-04 Posts: 1,532	Contrary to what the film showed, it was the Germans (Prussians) who modernised the Japanese army. That would agree with the Mauser theory.

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