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    If you could squeeze a four year college degree in your plans, your retirement will be even sweeter. Your pay and prestige will also be enhanced.

    For whomever else in this thread who was worried about LASIK:
    I just had the proceedure done on april 28. I went from horrible nearsighted/astigmatism to 20-30 right after the operation. Do not be worried about the laser, it is the creation of the flap that most of the complications come in. The operation is done from start to finish in about ten minutes. You scarcely know you are getting zapped. I went with the "custom job" with the flap created by a laser, called intralase. The laser creates a more consistant flap than the microkeratome method.
    Find a good experienced doctor with current lasers and you will be fine. I researched my doctor for months befoe I commited. The lasers give a precision that no other cutting instrument can match.

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    How would a four-year college help on my army career?
    I'm going to commit for 30 years, then retire. I will get 100% pay plus benefits for life.
    Now if I was in for 30 years, anybody have an idea on what kind of title/position I would be?
    Infantry? EOD? Or any other position that would sound good for me?

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    How would a four-year college help on my army career?
    It will help you advance up the ranks. Good for you for committing to the army, it's good to know that you will enjoy serving your country. Just wondering, how are you going to go about this? Is there a contract with the army where you can go beyond the 4 years?

    Hey Bonehead, I am nearsighted also, just wondering how much did it cost and did your insurance cover it?

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    About sniper rifles

    Has anyone tried Sako TGR-42 or TGR-22?
    This was supposed to replace Finnish army currenct sniper rifles.

    http://www.sako.fi/

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    Just to steer us a little more off subject...


    I had lasik almost 2 years ago. Due to my astigmatism, I'm now about 20/30 per eye but 20/20 overall. It cost about $2500.00 for both eyes. I'm overall very happy with it, it wasn't very uncomfortable for me, though I have some loss of night vision.

    But...my buddy is an army reserve recruiter and he said that the army won't take any recruit who has had lasik. I can't advise on the other services, but it may be the same. This may change with the recruiting shortfalls but right now that is something to think about for someone contemplating joining up. The weird thing is that I think that once you are in, its ok to get. Typical bureaucratic thinking i guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaugeste93
    Just to steer us a little more off subject...


    I had lasik almost 2 years ago. Due to my astigmatism, I'm now about 20/30 per eye but 20/20 overall. It cost about $2500.00 for both eyes. I'm overall very happy with it, it wasn't very uncomfortable for me, though I have some loss of night vision.

    But...my buddy is an army reserve recruiter and he said that the army won't take any recruit who has had lasik. I can't advise on the other services, but it may be the same. This may change with the recruiting shortfalls but right now that is something to think about for someone contemplating joining up. The weird thing is that I think that once you are in, its ok to get. Typical bureaucratic thinking i guess.

    And just to keep steering us off course....
    I am madly interested in getting LASIK but that bit about loss of night vision worries me.
    Being a creature of the night, preferring to come and go in the darkness, I'd hate to lose any visual aquity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter
    And just to keep steering us off course....
    I am madly interested in getting LASIK but that bit about loss of night vision worries me.
    Being a creature of the night, preferring to come and go in the darkness, I'd hate to lose any visual aquity.
    Dito I would like to loose my glasses but, i want to know i wont loose my self in the middle of the night. I have always had Great night vision and I don't want to loose it.

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    I'd hate to lose my nightvision too, but you could just wear nightvision goggles when it's nighttime

    But...my buddy is an army reserve recruiter and he said that the army won't take any recruit who has had lasik. I can't advise on the other services, but it may be the same. This may change with the recruiting shortfalls but right now that is something to think about for someone contemplating joining up. The weird thing is that I think that once you are in, its ok to get. Typical bureaucratic thinking i guess.
    Sounds pretty stupid to me since they actually provide it. wait. i found something
    AR 40-501 prohibits entry with history of refractive surgery, but…
    Waiver policy (OTSG May 2000) allows for PRK or LASIK if---
    At least 6 months since surgery
    Meet AR 40-501 vision standards

    http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/doem...RF_surgery.asp

    Refractive Surgery in the Military (Powerpoint Presentation): This presentation describes the different types of refractive surgery, current Army/Navy/AF policy, and the results of clinical research. An excellent overview.

    click on that

    Ahh I found the site the military site for laser surgery
    http://www.wramc.army.mil/department...ryv2/index.htm


    The Army reviewed what was known about the safety of laser refractive surgery in the civilian population to include safety in active sports figures such as boxers, NFL football players and others and determined there was good reason to expect safe results in the Army’s most valuable asset….the soldier. Additional studies within the military were begun and examined military specific issues such as parachute jumping and prolonged field duty after laser refractive surgery.

    While all the answers are not in yet it appears that, so far, laser refractive surgery meets or exceeds the civilian experience. More than 95% of soldiers obtain vision which is 20/40 or better (typical cut-off for state drivers licensing at which glasses are not required). 80% are 20/20 or better without correction. Less than 1% suffers a loss of one or two lines best corrected visual acuity and none has lost more than two lines ( if they were 20/20 with glasses pre-op, a two line loss would be 20/40 as their absolute best vision with or without glasses). Glare, decreased contrast sensitivity, dry eye and haloes around lights at night are present in some soldiers as in the civilian population but these have not been deemed clinically or operationally relevant in the vast majority of the few who have these symptoms.

    During the evaluation it was noted that a number of physically active professionals reported increased confidence and ability to work in poor conditions without reliance on optical devices to see as a real benefit of the surgery. Firefighters did not worry if they lost their glasses or a contact came out they might not be able to find their way out of a burning, smoke filled building. Police officers did not have to worry about their eyewear when in pursuit of a criminal or if engaged in physical restraint of a suspect. Soldiers must be prepared for similar circumstances and then some. Compatibility of eye wear with night vision goggles, gas masks, aiming devices and other systems is a constant source of concern for soldiers requiring refractive correction from eyewear. Soldiers are often operating far from an optical fabrication source so if their glasses are lost or broken they may be unable to support the units mission for days awaiting eyewear replacement. These soldiers may even detract from the mission while others must help them rather than perform their own missions.

    The results are good enough for me to try this, I am just wondering if the military health care will cover this and would I have to pay any? It does indeed confirm that nightvision is decreased and also there is some kind of glare that may stay up to a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by illusha
    I'd hate to lose my nightvision too, but you could just wear nightvision goggles when it's nighttime
    NVG's are good and they have proved it since Vietnam in a number of ways but they have there faults
    • they are Battery hogs
    • via there design they prompt tunnel vision, they hamper depth perception tend to interfere with regular sights
    besides they cost a fortune.
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    I proved that recruiter friend of yours wrong

    AR 40-501 prohibits entry with history of refractive surgery, but…
    Waiver policy (OTSG May 2000) allows for PRK or LASIK if---
    At least 6 months since surgery
    Meet AR 40-501 vision standards

    Want to respond to that?

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    Just eat lots of carrots - I do that all the time, and my vision's great.
    About 15-17 baby carrots per day will help your vision a lot. Some pilots during WWII told their secret about their accuracy during night bombing - They ate a lot of carrots.

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    I heard that if you eat a lot of carrots like every day it will change the color of your skin

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    Quote Originally Posted by illusha
    I heard that if you eat a lot of carrots like every day it will change the color of your skin
    So will eating Cheetos....well, your fingers anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by illusha
    It will help you advance up the ranks. Good for you for committing to the army, it's good to know that you will enjoy serving your country. Just wondering, how are you going to go about this? Is there a contract with the army where you can go beyond the 4 years?

    Hey Bonehead, I am nearsighted also, just wondering how much did it cost and did your insurance cover it?
    The origional cost was $2600.00. Through some odd insurance, I "only" paid $2300.00. In short, my Blue cross/blue shield didn't pay much at all. I do know of some insurance plans that cover 50%-90%, but unfortunately I am not in one of those plans. There is talk that most insurance carriers will start covering LASIK as the long term cost of glasses/contacts are much higher than the operation. The more expensive custum job that I got is supposed to give you less of the halo effect at night (once everything heals.)The less expensive operations usually do not go the extra mile and smooth out some of your eyes imperfections, they only change your prescription. I do know some people who have had the $499.00 specials and have had great results. I just wanted to get the best possible odds so I decided to pay extra for the custom operation. I can drive at night now with out much of a problem. I do hope the halo gets better as promised, but only time will tell. The proceedure is tax deductable though.

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    "So will eating Cheetos....well, your fingers anyway "
    LOL

    I've eaten a whole lot of carrots over my life, and my skin color hasn't changed at all.

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