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Personally I have never had the displeasure of someone breaking into my home. However my cousin was raped in her home from a home invasion.
Like you BD I've never had the need for one and on the one or two occasions where I was threatened by someone (a road rage incident and by a drunk) I found that being non-confrontational defused the situation. Also it helps to live in a decent area with relatively low crime rates. There have been some burglaries over the years, mostly when people are away from home, so even if you had a gun it would not have helped and may have been stolen by the thief.Originally Posted by BD1
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
My brother had to arm himself to check the house for intruders one night after hearing someone breaking in. He had to protect his wife and daughter. He checked the house and saw the intruder running away.
I had to check my house on 2 occasions when I heard some noise. Once I grabbed my revolver and the other time I had a shotgun. It turns out that some stuff in the garage fell down. But I can tell you this, I would be extremely terrified if I didn't have guns by my side. What could I have done? Call the police? What do I report? Some noise? What if someone was actually in the house and reached me before the cops arrive?
I am not a big guy. I can be overpowered easily, especially by those who work jobs like construction. Humans didn't get this far by using brute force alone. We developed tools. I intent to take full advantage of being a human.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
Yes, on Rue Chartres between Bourbon and Royale, in New Orleans in Sept. 1996. I did not get my weapon out fully before the perp realized that he had made a serious mistake by bringing a knife to a gunfight.
My wife and I would have been relieved of our wallet and jewelry, but instead the perp had to resort to changing his underwear.
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I have served as an officer in Armoured Corp and commanded a sqn. I also did
my weapons course with Infantry and Tank Gunnery Instructors. There you are
taught to kill? But when I lived in Austin TX in 90s and a Japanese student was shot in the head in Baton Rouge Louisiana in1991.I met a retired Police
Officer who offered to train people how to control emotions, act not react and
shoot in the right shoulder and the lower limbs. We used rubber bullets filled
with paint to practice. I also learned that Americans are highly emotionally stressed people at time of crises. Again to remind do not leave a vacum in the
home security system to allow an intruder/s? Because the upper hand is then
with them.
Major,
I am a combat officer like you but I have NEVER been trained to do as you suggest by ANYONE. I am a competition shooter and if I choose, I am accurate enough to take a limb BUT and I stressed but, as a competition shooter, I go for centre of mass.
Outside the special forces, I do not know of any course that does not stress centre of mass, especially with pistols. It is EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE to discharge a firearm without the intention to kill. That is what make discharging a firearm such a big responsibility.
Outside of special forces and snipers, I strongly doubt that inconsistent shooters can take out a shoulder or limb. They're simply NOT trained for it.
Chimo
Shoot to kill, if you have to.
Tony
Yet another ex-tankie of 1 RTR origin.
I have a question, have any of us here been taught to shoot to wound? I know of two people who posts here who might have that training but how many of us have actually got the training to wound?
Chimo
Funny the debate shifted to this particular scenario, since it really happened in France a few years ago.
There was a burglar who had the rather bad idea to break in the house of a sniper (), naturally he got it in the face point blank the second he set a foot in the mansion.
Problems arose when the family of the "victim" sued the sniper. The courts condemned the sniper/landlord under the motives that being a military professional, and a fortiori a sniper (by definition a good shooter), he was able to neutralize the burgler without necessarily taking his life. The self defence argument was dismissed for these reasons.
You've been warned 7th.
Down with the violent relocation in the cities of China!
China should set up laws against violent relocation and proctect the depriviledged.
People should be granted with the right of self-remedy agaist violent relocation.
I've always been taught to go for the 10 ring. Dead men tell no tales.
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Agreed.Nor do they shoot back.
"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories." Thomas Jefferson
I have a 16 year old daughter who came up to me not 3 weeks ago and said "Dad, can you show me how to use that? (points to M1 carbine in my closet). You guys are not always at home."
The carbine is kept mag loaded, but never chambered. I showed her how to operate it.
"Pull this (op rod) back all the way. Let it go. Now, when you pull the trigger, it will fire. Lock the door to this bedroom, pick up the phone, dial 911, ask for police. Scream out at the top of your lungs 'I have a rifle, I will shoot you if you enter this room!' Sit tight, and wait. But use it if you need to. Above all else, you must see your target and know it is someone very, very bad. Identify the target. Always, always know it is not a friend or family member."
I think that is a good way to execute Castle Doctrine for someone not well-trained in firearms. Don't go snooping about the house.
For myself, I would barricade myself at the top of the stairs, assuming it is a night break in, as all our bedrooms are upstairs. I would yell and raise a ruckus, tell them cops are coming, get the F out of our house or I will kill you.
I am not a big fan of deadly force in defense of anything other than people. I am not going to shoot some teen stealing the rims off my car.
Agreed. To protect yourself or your family is a no-brainer. As far as stuff goes, it can be replaced. I may not like it and it may seriously piss me off, but I would hate to live with the fact that a killed some kid over some possessions that I could easily replace.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
How about a M1861 Springfiled Rifle Musket with an 18 inch bayonet?Is 4 ga too big? I'd think that 6 ga might be a better balance between mass and swing speed) Also, I see that you're no traditionalist having traded in a nice Hickory or Ash Louisville slugger. Lastly, why not just do the job the old-fashioned, Tanya Harding way, and get the tire iron out
That's what I got.....along with a 100 pound Yellow Lab.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is to know to not use it in a fruit salad.
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