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Reply With QuoteCan't they make a tripod that doesn't weight 1000 lbs?
The T&E mechanism is great, but humping the tri-pod along with the MG to begin with kinda sucks.
Can't they make a tripod that doesn't weight 1000 lbs?
They have a lightweight tripod in development. I don't know if it's going to be fielded. I'll have to surf for the specs on it.Originally Posted by sniperdude411
M21 - Fond memories?I remeber those leg days long, looooong ago. Just think of the 60 like a big man rifle. THe SAW has a 200 rd box and the 60 had cardbosrd boxes of 100 linked that set in a cloth bag that hung on the side of the feed tray. Tha magazine idea for the SAW was as aback-up plan. Run out oif linked and pool from the riflemen. That feature never has worked well. What really SUCKED is when I was a motar maggot on a M-106 and they wanted you to ground mount the tube and hump the ma-duce too. "Sorry Sir, the tube went up with the track."
Sniperdude - You NEVER have enought ammo for a firefight!! Call for support and hope you don't have to go with the FPF (final protective fire)to cover your bugging out, sorry I mean falling back & regrouping. Also, a 'clip' ?!?!?! Are you using a Garand or strippers?
Really can't see much need for a tripod with a squad weapon, lack of mobility. The tripod setup is more static and should stay with the heavy weapons.
AK-Dave
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1. Ak-Dave - I meant clip-loading as in using standard STANAG magazines (I would never even think of how unsucessful a true stripper-loading SAW would be). Normally magazines are indeed called clips in games, videos, and such.
2. AK-Dave - If you are always out of ammo, then your buddies probably are, too.
Stupid trigger-happy people.
3. AK-Dave - I agree with you on the tripod, it's just that those things shouldn't be so heavy. And I don't know why it would take more than a year or two to test a friggin' tripod.
4. Snipe - I meant that the M-60 and M-249 used different ammo boxes/bags.
Don't worry, I'm not that stupid.
Rant mode off.
There's some info on the XM192 lightweight tripod. However, my guess is that when you shed 10 pounds from the tripod, you'll end up carrying 10 more pounds of something else. It was upsetting to see the picture about 2/3 down. It's actually one of my soldiers who's a stud but his squad leader was pretty hard headed about things. The SL could lead, he just had trouble listening. Anyways, the M145 is designed to allow you to keep both eyes open and he's got his non-dominant eye closed. Also, the machine gun isn't up on a tripod like it should be, although if all the targets are within 100m, then it's fine to be on bipod. Military photos are always interesting - you'll almost always catch someone doing something wrong. Must be Murphy's Law.
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/mmg.htm
" his squad leader was pretty hard headed about things. The SL could lead, he just had trouble listening."
If one cannot listen, one should not lead. Just one old Corporals opinion.
Dave- Ah, nothing like ground deployment of the Four-Duece is there? When i was learning the 11C MOS my SL got a couple of his fingers between the track and the baseplate when we were re-mounting it to the side of the track...i'm sure you can figure out what happened. You never heard someone scream so loud. It was a shame, he was a nice guy.
I never minded humping the M-60, i figured it was worth the extra weight in pure firepower, but humping a tri-pod is what your AG is for.
PS: Sniper dude, you pictured a bi-pod. A Tri-pod has three legs, and a traverse and elevation mechanism.
"PS: Sniper dude, you pictured a bi-pod. A Tri-pod has three legs, and a traverse and elevation mechanism."
Where did I mention or describe a bipod?
M21 – my AG whined about the damn spare and ammo! Had one FTX where I was humping ‘the pig’, the spare and 800rnds. I was NOT a happy camper.
Only really used the bipod for ambushes, easier fire and movement with it folded up. What did piss me off a lot was when your ruck would smack in the back of the head every time you flopped prone and couldn't raise your head high enough to see over the sights.
Shek – a 5lb tripod gives me a *****. Nah, it would be another 20 lbs or so because of the weight reduction from the tripod.
Sniperdude – have to hassle anyone about throwing around ‘clip’ instead of magazine. Had the difference drummed/beat into my head during my formative days in basic.Hopefully my other team members would be using somewhat of an aimed fire while I was using my SAW for suppressive fire and they would have a spare mag or two.
Like picking that volunteer to crack their mask to see if it is ‘all clear’ yet.
Sorry for the smile mood.
AK-Dave
Those who trade liberty for security have none.
Hmmmmmmm. Can't say w-o-o-d-y but 'pissed off' is OK?
Weird.
AK-Dave
Those who trade liberty for security have none.
Indeed.
Ultimax 2000 Latest Ultimax has equip with P-rail for scope adaptation, quick change barrel and it can feed 100-round drum mag/30 rounds(M16) mag. This make it the real ONE MAN MACHINE GUN in the world becasue you can carry, fire and change magazine on move or even charging just the way you handle your AR. I had fired the weapon at 80 degree up the hill and 80 degree down the hill with out assistant and without any problem. The low recoil make it so easy to control and accurate when firing full automatic. I can even place the butt rest on my nose during firing. It have detachable or foldable butt version, long or short barrel. Great!
Now, look at the SAW.
It is not easy to carry all boxes of ammunitions and the weapon with one man and it take times to change ammunition belt. (I had fired more than 2x100 round drum magazines from Ultimax during the interval) Worst is, it can not fire the weapon down or up hill (ammunition belt flip and get stuck in the box). You need to remove the belt from the box and get one assistant to hold it for you. You call this one man machine gun?
If you have one yourself, then I really want to shoot it.
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