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| View Poll Results: FN Five-seven, H&K UCP, or high-caliber Magnum? | |||
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3 | 21.43% |
| H&K UCP |
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3 | 21.43% |
| High-caliber Magnum |
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8 | 57.14% |
| Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Zombie attacks are real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YouTube - Zombies attack man in Russia As you can see, these are the "28 days later" or the "dawn of the dead" remake type zombie. ![]()
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I would go with (what looks like) the CZ 75.
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i don,t see cz 75 there.
the answer for dales question, all of them. i like my p94 9mm, doestn,t sound like much, but with +p+ hp ammo, it is just enough imo. i wouldn,t choose magnum caliber handgun, second shot isn,t as quick as with 9mm. there is always a chance you might miss with the first one.
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It's all about shot placement. If you opponent is not wearing body armor, go with whatever you shoot the most accurately and quickly. I'd rather hit a guy in the chest with a 9mm than in the arm with a .44 Magnum.
If there's body armor, the terminal performance of the new PDW rounds are not spectacular after they have defeated it. Still, it's better than nothing, and these pistols tend to have a very large magazine capacity.
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You might want to start a new thread on Glocks in general, or Glock 20 specificly.
What I have heard was 10mm rounds break slides in auto pistols. That's why S&W trimmed the case and developed the 40 S&W as a tamer alternative. |
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1911s scaled up for 10mm had issues because the engineers didn't do their job right. The G20 was designed specifically for 10mm from the get go and so has no issues. There is also a CZ 75 knock off that is supposed to handle 10mm just fine if you prefer that kind of ergonomics.
10mm Auto is noteworthy for possessing the title of the most powerful practical handgun round. Anything more powerful is designed for bears and sub-optimal for humans because of it, not to mention recoil. 10mm basically took both sides of the 9mm vs 45 argument's "vaunted capabilities" and did it in one package. The G20 is particular implements this well. It has the exact same number of rounds as the vaunted Beretta and CZ 75 wondernines were designed with. It's blockier so it fills up the space more, but no bigger in the extreme measurements. It's lighter loaded then the old steel frame wondernines are unloaded. Recoil is perfectly manageable. Ammo varies between full power loads, and FBI loads that are in the 40 S&W power range. 10mm Auto and its loading were the result of FBI studies that are still valid regardless of what disciples of almost hundred year old cartridges may say. This is where you should probably ask your question, otherwise: 10mmTalk.com Last edited by FOG3 : 05-30-2008 at 21:23 PM. |
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I'd almost always choose a High cap 9 mil or 40 cal as a side arm, and possible a Ruger 357 revolver SP/GP 101 as a belly gun for stopping power. But the PDW just haven't been proven enough yet, I wouldn't want to have to guess how many round I need to put down a target in any given situation, when I know just what is needed with a nine or 357. They may differ a great deal but I don't need to guess and hope it was enough before moving to the next target or for that matter even whether I should engage the target or not. We may have some "clinical trials that sound promising" but there is going to need to be at least 2 or 3 years in heavy combat and the engagements well documented before this kind of choose is ready to be discussed in detail. Just my option I suppose and I could be wrong :-) you'd have to provide some dam good evidence to convince me I'm wrong but it's possible :-/
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That's pretty much all I have, 9mm and 357mag. I find the 357mag to be very pleasant to shoot. I am fairly accurate with it. The 9mm might not make big holes, but hitting the target is more important. I just acquired a used Sig P220 in 45 (made in West Germany ) . Need to play around with that to see if I can be as accurate with it as I am with a 9mm or 357mag. If so, then that would be a good PDW. |
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