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Old 09-20-2004, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New generation anti-tank rifle?

Is this supposed to be some offspring of ww2 era anti-tank rifles.




Operation: long recoil, semi-automatic
Barrel: 1200 mm
Weight: 18 kg
Length: 1800 mm
Feed Mechanism: 5 rounds detachable box mag.

Muzzle velocity: 1450m/s
Muzzle energy: 36,793 J LOL Goddamn! It makes a bloody mess out anything it hits.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I forgot to mention the weapon name, Steyr IWS 2000 or atleast the one I know.
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Old 09-21-2004, 06:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 09-21-2004, 06:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, Fury, I found some additional info about this ultimate son-of-a-bitch weapon...

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn46-e.htm

Here's an extract from the text: "IWS 2000 is wery formidable weapon. It fires 20 gramm (308 grains) tungsten dart (fleschette) with muzzle velocity of 1450 meters per second (4750 fps). At 1000 meters this projectile will penetrate a 40 mm of RHA (rollded homogenous steel armour) and will result in serious secondary fragmentation effect behind the armour. That said, it will penetrate two walls of any modern APC at one kilometer range. The trajectory is very flat and does not rise higher than 800 mm above the line of sight when fired to 1000 meters. The cartridge is of somewhat original design, and has plastic case with steel head and base. The projectile is concealed within a plastic sabot."

more infos there (seems they have developed a very interresting recoil control system .. i was wondering how an operator of that rifle would deal with that massive recoil; he would probably train his arm muscles and shoulders in advance at a workout gym )

btw, in that picture above, the Steyr 15.2mm cartridge is compared to a 7.62mm NATO (.308 Wichester) cartridge.
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Try to carry that thing + ammunition for couple of kilometers and keep up with the rest of your squad
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Old 10-23-2004, 13:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think a rocket based anti-tank weapon is more practical than a gun based anti-tank weapon anyday. There is aleady shoot-it-and-forget-it anti-tank rocket launchers that have a range of a mile.
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Old 11-02-2004, 18:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Even though it may not be a good foot soldier weaponin my opinion, it can be mounted on a armored vehicle, or a light tank. It would be more practical on a vehicle than a weapon a foot soldier would use.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The whole idea of anti-material rifles is that with a 10 dollar ammunition you can destroy 10 million dollar aircraft o n airfield or similar kind of soft target.
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Old 11-03-2004, 19:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The whole idea of anti-material rifles is that with a 10 dollar ammunition you can destroy 10 million dollar aircraft o n airfield or similar kind of soft target.

Yeah I was going to post that Fury. The anti-tank rifle would definitely be cheaper to produce, because it is not as complex as a guided rocket system. Particularly a shoot and forget weapon that has a range of a mile.
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Old 11-04-2004, 17:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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are any militaries acquiring it?
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Old 11-06-2004, 06:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Does anyone has any idea if this idea has been tried by some other militaries/there are some such guns in militaries today?
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Old 11-06-2004, 06:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The Steyr IWS is in the same category as the Croatian Rt-20 anti antimaterial rifle, you can check it from google simply type the name into there
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Old 11-26-2004, 17:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Almost all missiles have launch signatures. This weapon might have a terrific advantage in that area.

Multiple rounds downrange, and nobody can pick out the point of origin...demoralizing. Effective. Re-usable from the same position, possibly in conjunction with marked-out lines-of-sight, range markers, and interlocking fields of fire.

Hmmm...might actually make more sense to kill MBTs with the ATGMs and leave the light armor/special targets to this li'l killah.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I think such rifles are the perfect light infantry anti-tank weapon.
I mean you generally only plan infantry to be really effective against APC/IFV and such a rifle is perfect for such a job. Jut imagine some nicely dug in infantry firing at advancing infantry supported by M-113s... In the time you get enough (expensive) missles fired to do serious harm you can surely loose a much higher number of rounds with an AT-rifle
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I think such rifles are the perfect light infantry anti-tank weapon.
I mean you generally only plan infantry to be really effective against APC/IFV and such a rifle is perfect for such a job. Jut imagine some nicely dug in infantry firing at advancing infantry supported by M-113s... In the time you get enough (expensive) missles fired to do serious harm you can surely loose a much higher number of rounds with an AT-rifle
Exactly. You can usually get one missile off before being spotted. These things, though...with luck, you'd need resupply before you'd have to reposition.

And on the offense...this guy goes up with the advance. Missiles are overwatch only, bounding forward only after you've gotten the grunts out to the missile's effective range.

I can definitely see a role for this baby.
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