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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix
    CAS is best seen from some way off
    CAS is good as long as you're not in the receiving end

    I've never seen an air strike being done but I wathed when couple of 155mm artillery guns fired live ammunition. I was safe distance away from the danger zone but it scared the living crap out of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fury
    CAS is good as long as you're not in the receiving end

    I've never seen an air strike being done but I wathed when couple of 155mm artillery guns fired live ammunition. I was safe distance away from the danger zone but it scared the living crap out of me
    I saw a flight of Su-25 Frogfoot giving a life fire shooting at an military exhibition once... I really don't want to be near these things...
    ...and what I'm frightened off, is that they call it God's love...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fury
    CAS is good as long as you're not in the receiving end

    I've never seen an air strike being done but I wathed when couple of 155mm artillery guns fired live ammunition. I was safe distance away from the danger zone but it scared the living crap out of me
    Amen, brother. Can you imagine what it's like to be under that for an hour or more?
    "The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
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    "Come down to Tampa. I'll buy you a beer, and we can play a round of a li'l game I like to call "Pinch the Waitress" (International Tournament Rules)."
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    One of my favorite games.
    I used to be nationally-ranked, but then my elbow went, ya know?

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    Just so long as you don't make me watch a Bucaneers game.
    No WAY, man. I mean, I think we could be friends, so I wouldn't want to screw THAT up. I really wanted to be a Suckin'Beers fan when we got down here, but everything they've done since then has made that awfully dam' hard to do. I am usually a hard-core hometown fan, but until they change virtually EVERYthing about that team...I guess I'll swear off pro football and just root for the Vols. (SEC football is the BEST football.)
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    I'm not having much of a hard time rooting for my hometown Eagles nowadays.

    They're pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesman
    Amen, brother. Can you imagine what it's like to be under that for an hour or more?
    I everytime wonder how long anybody can even life through it for an hour...
    ...and what I'm frightened off, is that they call it God's love...

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    Generally airstrikes won't last more than a minute or two(assuming the attacking jets make multiple runs).

    I've only ever seen two combat CAS strikes. One was two A-7s hitting a mortar site that'd taken our patrol under fire with 4 CBUs, the other was an AC-130H strike on La Commandancia HQ complex. Spectres are more the exception to the rule. That thing was firing for a long time the first night of the invasion. The Spectre is a very scary platform, even when it's on your side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    Generally airstrikes won't last more than a minute or two(assuming the attacking jets make multiple runs).

    I've only ever seen two combat CAS strikes. One was two A-7s hitting a mortar site that'd taken our patrol under fire with 4 CBUs, the other was an AC-130H strike on La Commandancia HQ complex. Spectres are more the exception to the rule. That thing was firing for a long time the first night of the invasion. The Spectre is a very scary platform, even when it's on your side.
    The gunships are now officially our most potent COIN platform. There is quite literally nothing at all in any inventory in the world that can get the kinds of results we've been seeing in Afghanistan and Iraq. It would be dodgy to take it into a high-intensity situation, but for what we want it for where we're now using 'em...the scores have been so incredible and so many people were hollerin' "BS!" that on many occasions of multiple-dozen bodycounts (we're not in that business anymore, but one must have AARs that include results) operations have been mounted to go in afterwards to check it out. Once, when a Spectre crew claimed "40+", our SOF guys jumped on it an hour after the target was cold...and found 54 dead/mortally injured Taliban. The AC-130 couldn't see into the basement of a building that had about a dozen guys all blown up down there.
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    "AC-130H strike on La Commandancia HQ complex"

    I'm rusty on my history and its late and have tests to study and must sleep: That is Panama (Op Just Cause), correct?
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    Correct.

    I think i saw that gun camera footage Blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    Correct.

    I think i saw that gun camera footage Blue.
    One of my Watch Officers is a LtCol that jumped on that target. He is a veteran of much combat in those hills (has a H-to-H kill with his knife ), and he's seen some awful stuff. But he said that basement beat 'em all.

    Last thing: the Marines that cleared Fallujah did an impossible job with great skill and immense bravery. But if they're honest, they'll tell you that the air support was key, and kept their casualties from going to 'Antietam' on the 'Blood Scale'. Most of it was Air Force, and the see-in-the-dark capability of the AC-130 Specters were matchless. Got to have 'em, man, and they scare the livin' hell outta the moodje. I know, because they told me.
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    You hear the story about the El Salvadorean Corporal in Iraq?(not a joke)

    Guy HTHd with six Tangos with a SWITCHBLADE, and they were all armed. He won the El Salvadorean equivelant to a CMoH, and lived to talk about it.

    I have the story posted here somewhere, was about 9 or 10 months ago i think.

    I think Antietam scale casualties would be pretty impossible even with no air given the disparity in squad level fire power and training, but i get your point.

    Would've definitely been a hell of a lot worse.

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    "One of my Watch Officers is a LtCol that jumped on that target. He is a veteran of much combat in those hills (has a H-to-H kill with his knife ), " What is an "H-to'H kill?

    "Guy HTHd with six Tangos with a SWITCHBLADE, and they were all armed. He won the El Salvadorean equivelant to a CMoH, and lived to talk about it."
    What is "HTHd?

    P.S. I saw the video too.

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    "P.S. I saw the video too."

    There's a video of that???

    Got a link?

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    sure, let me find it

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