Thread: Kimber Ultra CDP II - Next Handgun for Me!

I'm a revolver man, and there are far more revolvers out there that are naturally small and light and compact enough to carry 24/7, than there are suitable pistols. With a little practice you can get to grip's with it double action and .38 special ammo is plentiful and cheap enough to practice with, (if you don't load it yourself). With all types of load's and projectile types.

There are those that will recite the gunfighters creed, ie., bring a gun that's calibre starts with a 4, .44/.45. Them days are gone, today the ammo is made of the best components that can be had, the quality of the firearms is first rate, reliability is mostly 100%. A little j frame S&W #36 or 60 with a 2" barrel is light and fit's in your pocket in your Bermuda's and a couple of speed loaders or speed strip's don't take up much room either.

The next question is who are you, are you a LEO/Soldier who CCW's off duty or are you just some regular guy/girl who CCW's because you are worried about your personal security?

LEO's and Soldiers should carry their duty gun or something that resembles it just smaller, just how much ammo do you think that you'll be needing? I once read that most gunfights are over in 3 to 10 rounds total having been fired, at 3 to 10 meters distance within 30 seconds or less. The regular guy/girl will not practice failure drills as often as LEO's or Soldiers do or get the regular practice required to remain proficient.

I know that some will say that the multiple BG/zombie scenario nightmare etc, what a load of crap that is, if you are being attacked by multiple assailants then you probably won't even know anything about it, and it won't matter much if you are CCW'ing or not, as you will hit the ground mortally wounded not even having had a chance to defend yourself. I hate these discussions about what gun/holster/ammo, I'm pro gun, but have been cold cocked and woke up fighting!!! So know full well that my persec is breech able.

Just my 0,02cts worth, on a subject that has been done to death elsewhere on the www.

Tony

I love revolvers, but my local store doesn't carry the brand I like any more

I simply don't like S&W. I love Taurus guns. They're cheap with good quality. Tons of choices too.

A mid sized Smith revolver costs $600+ now. I think that's outrageous. For that price I might as well get a Glock or a used Sig.

What would a used good condition S&W #36 or #60 cost in the US?

I have never had a Taurus, what are they like?

BTW. You don't want to know what we pay for S&W revolvers over here in €urope, okay I'll tell you a #686 with a 62 barrel will cost you according to my newest catalogue €929, and the 686 Universal Champion will cost you €1,699, the M1911 PC costs €2,349

I'm so glad that I got my Colt's while we still had the Deutsch Mark.

It will also explain why I'm spending most of my time on the range with the Ruger 10/22 GSG5 and the Hammerli Pistol as they are all in .22lr, cheap and cheerful to shoot, and still give you some nice results.

Tony

Originally Posted by toemag

What would a used good condition S&W #36 or #60 cost in the US?

I have never had a Taurus, what are they like?

BTW. You don't want to know what we pay for S&W revolvers over here in €urope, okay I'll tell you a #686 with a 62 barrel will cost you according to my newest catalogue €929, and the 686 Universal Champion will cost you €1,699, the M1911 PC costs €2,349

I'm so glad that I got my Colt's while we still had the Deutsch Mark.

It will also explain why I'm spending most of my time on the range with the Ruger 10/22 GSG5 and the Hammerli Pistol as they are all in .22lr, cheap and cheerful to shoot, and still give you some nice results.

Tony

I've never paid attention to how much a used S&W is. The one that I like, 686 with 6" barrel in stainless is around $650 in CA, brand new. The prices will vary in different states. CA makes people jump through hoops to buy guns because guns cause crimes

Tauruses are nice. For a while they were built on Smith machinary. I think that was in the 80s and 90s. Don't think they are any more. I had a 686 with 6" barrel, vented rib, in stainless, that I paid $289 for in the early 90s. I would say the fit is not as tight as my dad's model 66 S&W, but tight enough to not rattle. I could hit just about anything with it using full power 357 factory loads. The weight (40 oz.) and the long barrel help. Taurus also offers lifetime warranty on its guns. Over all, I think they (revolvers) are great value for the money.

I'm not familiar with Taurus autos.

Can you still buy a Sig P210 in Germany? I would really like to get one.

Originally Posted by gunnut

Can you still buy a Sig P210 in Germany? I would really like to get one.

Sure, they cost way to much, about €3k, but those that have them know why. The price is probably why I have a Glock pistol, and not a Sig P210, and knowing me I'd get the conversion kits in .32 and .22 for it......

Tony

Originally Posted by toemag

Sure, they cost way to much, about €3k, but those that have them know why. The price is probably why I have a Glock pistol, and not a Sig P210, and knowing me I'd get the conversion kits in .32 and .22 for it......

Tony

I might as well look for a used P210 here. I saw one on a message board classified section for $1800.

Go to this site: SIGforum.com --A discussion forum for SIG enthusiasts classified section. There are a lot of good deals. I just need to win the lotto or something like that. )

Originally Posted by gunnut

I might as well look for a used P210 here. I saw one on a message board classified section for $1800.

Go to this site: SIGforum.com --A discussion forum for SIG enthusiasts classified section. There are a lot of good deals. I just need to win the lotto or something like that. )

LMAO, there are several types of the P210, a mate got an ex- German Customs and Excise weapon really cheaply about 10 or so years ago, at 25m he very rarely shoots less than 95pts out of 100, the only thing I dislike about it, apart from it not being mine is that the mag release is at the bottom of the grip and not in the usual place.

Thanks for the link, I'll have a looksee later.

Tony

Originally Posted by toemag

What would a used good condition S&W #36 or #60 cost in the US? Tony

Couple hundred bucks.

I've owned a couple Tauruses but didn't like them much. Always liked my Smiths though. I have a NIB Model 25 .45LC limited edition that I bought in 1989 and have never fired. Someday might be worth something, lol.