Where do you own land in Oregon?Originally Posted by RustyBattleship
Jesus, somebody doesn't like SKS's...
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Where do you own land in Oregon?Originally Posted by RustyBattleship
About 45 miles northeast of Klammath Falls. Not exactly thick forest bigfoot country though I've heard a report from fairly trustworthy people.Originally Posted by bonehead
It's only 2 parcels of 20 acres and 10 acres separated about 3/4 mile apart. I surveyed it all myself using a rifle scope as a transit and a camera tripod. Should be pretty accurate as my sightings went directly across official section markers. That 20 acre parcel made for a perfect target range for me when I tested out the ballistic qualities of 3/4-inch thick Resin impregnated Kevlar Armor (it sucks).
It's up on a tableland and the only person that lived there in a run-down cabin moved out years ago. My nearest neighbor is 8 miles away. A couple miles South is Wild Billy Lake that must be good duck hunting as I've heard the gunfire while camped out on my land and watched ducks fly NORTH instead of SOUTH for that time of year.
Good deer and antelope country too. I find their tracks all the time. Not too many bear but one day I heard something rustling in the brush only a few yards from my camping trailer. With my M-1 Garand (with fixed bayonet) ----naw, only kidding. But I did unholster my .41 Magnum as I checked out the noise. Before I could see it, it went;
Damn cow that got lost from one of the ranches down below.
I didn't feel like steak that night so I holstered my Ruger and went back to heating up a can of spaghetti and meat balls.
It was two days later when I definitely felt something watching me in the woods just south of my 10 acre parcel. And I was thinking about that bigfoot report related by a couple of the local real estate brokers. I was sort of a business partner with them so I believe what they told me. I was looking for pine tree seedlings to transplant along with the Junipers my wife and I planted several years before and ----.
Well, we're off subject now. Some other time.
My mom and stepfather own some land near the Sprague river. The wells there are deep. lack of water= lack of people. I don't know about the duck hunting down there, but i do know the people here love to shoot. A lot of land is being closed due to the idiots who drag up large appliances and cars to use as targets, then leave all the trash there. Cows are everywhere as ranchers put their cows on their own land, public land, and everyone elses land as they see fit. In that area the ranchers play the odds of "what are the chances of an out of state owner of a little used parcel actually being there when the cows stroll by." The cows can wreak havoc on a water source, but they will fertalize the land for free so watch yer step.Originally Posted by RustyBattleship
The bears tend to be farther west, but you might spot a cougar if you are lucky. Deer are plentiful.
My land is north of the Sprague River and walking distance west of the Sycan River. When I first camped out up there, I carried a .45 ACP with wadcutters for rattlesnakes. Then the locals (Klammath Indians) told me there were no rattlesnakes on that side of the river which made Oregon Pines (a few miles west of me) so saleable. But my wife found where a bear was trying to dig out a woodchuck hole and she asked if my .45 would stop a bear. Naturally I answered that the wadcutters (target loads) would only make him mad. Three months later at a gun show she bought me my .41 Magnum.Originally Posted by bonehead
That is a neat trick. I am going to tell my wife there really are bears in Oregon in the hopes she will get me something like a .41 mag as well. So far, I have been carrying a rifle each and every time I have encountered bears here.Originally Posted by RustyBattleship
She doesn't think there are bears in Oregon? Good grief. There are bears all over the place. For example, here in sunny southern California are black bears that can get to be pretty big. Just a 2 hour drive east from Long Beach I can be in Forest Falls which (though at 6,000 foot elevation) is at the FOOT of the San Bernardino Mountains. Bears up there just love to turn your trash cans inside out.Originally Posted by bonehead
In the San Bernardino Mountains at the most popular SOUTHERN California ski resorts of Big Bear and Arrowhead bears are a constant problem especially in the winter time. No, they do NOT sleep ALL winter. Their hibernation cycle includes coming out for a midnight snack once in a while. The fall is the worst when they REALLY get hungry and try to build up insulative body fat for the winter.
I have seen bear sign ALL OVER Western Oregon from Beatty to the Pacific Ocean.
Then I recall one time while deer hunting west of Mono Lake in California being stalked by a Mountain Lion. The next year I went up and returned the stalking game with an M1 Carbine and 30 round bannana clip. Alas, the poor critter was caught by a rockslide a few months before.
Oh wait, there was a report of a Mountain Lion attack in Riverside County here in SOUTHERN California a few weeks ago.
Please. Your wife may be the loviest woman in the world and could put Eva Longoria to shame, can write her own cookbook, speak four languages and balance the checkbook with her eyes closed. But put your foot down and tell her one way or another the budget is going to have to include a .41 or .44 magnum before your next trip to Oregon.
A rifle can do the trick but can be a bit cumbersome. A magnum handgun is IDEAL if you have other work to do and must leave both hands free such as setting fence posts. In my case it was surveying and building a small dam in the arroyo that runs through my 10 acre parcel to provide a watering hole for animals and resovoir for some trees my wife and I planted.
Hmmm. If your wife looks like Eva Longoria, why would you --- never mind. Just a thought.
My wife knows that there are bears here. (we live here) The problem is justifying another firearm purchase to add to my arsenal. South western Oregon(Cascades to the Pacific) is filled with bears, though I have not heard very many bear reports in south cental Oregon. I even had one in the back porch of my house, eating dog food, when I lived near Silver Falls State park.Originally Posted by RustyBattleship
Every once in awhile someone goes into the SW Oregon woods and does not return. The locals usually say "The bears got him". It is possible, but more probable that he stumbled upon a weed farm where the caretaker defends his crop with enthusiasm and extreme prejudice. When the feds go in for a bust they are armed to the teath and the place looks like a scene from a war movie.
Most of my bear encounters ended with the animal scampering off in the other direction. I have been fortunate to not have come between a cub and its mother or an otherwise aggressive bear. I lived in close proximity with a black bear for a few months in Idaho and saw him nearly everyday, but that is another story.
Cougars are another matter. Few can believe the speed, stealth, and striking distance those cats possess. IMO they fear humans far less than bears and are more predatorial on humans. Fortunately, they are easier to kill than bears as long as you are a quick shot. There is a reason I like semi autos for hunting in deep timber.
Another reason why I like to carry an M1-Garand as well as my .41 magnum Ruger.Originally Posted by bonehead
Some people say Cougars (aka Panthers, Painters, Mountain Lions) will not attack humans.
My great grandfather was attacked once. The family was living in the Kickapoo River Valley of Wisconsin for a couple of years until an eye specialist from Vienna would be making an American tour with a new treatment for cataracts. My great grandfather (Henry Weiler) was almost totally blind and dispondent as his eyes were so useful in Germany when he was one of the Kaiser's tailors.
While walking in the woods on a path picked out for him without low branches his cane kicked something on the path. As he bent over to pick it up he heard the branches above him rustle and felt an animal jumping over him and then running off into the woods.
He reported this and the local Kickapoos (who sort of adopted my grandmother and her three sisters and taught them some of their ways of the woods) went out to investigate. Sure enough they found the signs that a Panther (as they called them in Wisconsin) was waiting for an easy prey on a tree branch. But Henry bent over just at the time the cat sprung toward him. By missing Henry the cat did not land precisely on all fours on the other side of the path and caused him to take of running instead.
Cougar attacks are not so rare anymore. The "cougar is more afraid of you than you are of him" B.S. is still being pushed by the PETA types. I have met cougars in the wild and the only fear they had of me was they were not going to get enough meals out of me if they won the fight. Cougars are reclusive and one can be in the woods for years without seeing one. If you do see a cougar, he most likely had been watching you for some time and was sizing you up as by their nature are difficult to surprise. After the no dogs for cougar and bear hunting law in Oregon, the numbers have risen to the point where cougars are becoming a problem. I am not big on hunting with dogs as my belief is, "If you are going dangerous game hunting, do so one on one." Otherwise the dogs do all the hunting and all you do is shoot a tired and treed animal. Really, where is the sport in that? You can call it bounty hunting, shooting, or any other name, but that is not true hunting in my book.
Agreed full heartedly. The true hunt is outsmarting or outmanuevering the animal.Originally Posted by bonehead
Sort of like patrol duty. But at least the cougar, bear, deer or moose can't shoot back.
Not named my gun yet but its a pump action
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We actually have had problems with wolves in New York City recently, one swam across the Hudson from Rockland County and ended up in Central Park. The NYPD's Emergency Services Unit was chasing it for 3 days before they caught it. The wolf died in capitivity a few days later.
I also know that we have problems with bears upstate in the Catskills and up north more. A few years ago a bear mauled a 4 month old baby at a Jewish group's picnic in the Catskills and the ski resort I go to has bear warning signs with the Sheriff's Office and State Conservation Police phone #s.
I read about that Wolf problem. At first I thought they were going to do a sequel to the movie "Wolfen" where real wolves hide out in slums and abandoned buildings. Then learned it was real.Originally Posted by ChrisF202
Here in southern California, we now have an Alligator problem. There is a "lake" in the San Pedro/Wilmington area where some guy dumped his "pet" Alligator after it got too big for him. California isn't always sunny and can get quite chilly at times so captors have not seen the creature for several weeks and it is either hibernating somewhere or died of the cold.
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