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#77 (permalink) |
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I find a 16"/50 usually takes care of the long range sniping problem. Even if you miss you still hit!!!!!
Any caliber that starts with .338 is probably going to do more damage to your shoulder than a 7MM Mag...... Unless of course you have a proper muzzle brake on it. But a proper muzzle brake on a 7MM would only reduce it's kick by a similar margin......
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Has anyone heard about a heavy sniper rifle called Gepard M6, I have seen pictures of it but dont remember the country of origin, Hungary I think but anyway. Gepard M6 fires 14.5x114mm catridge, its semiautomatic and the accuracy was something like 0.6-0.9 MOA at 1300 meters
it falls into the same category with Croatian RT-20 sniper "rifle" and those things are more like cannons ![]() |
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Oh get real! The AK-47 is a fossil and the 7.62x39 catridge is even older, Im amazed that FDF still uses that old M43 catridge, the 5.56mm bullet has more velocity, its generally more accurate and has more impact energy beyond 300 meters, at that range the old 7.62 round will lose most of its energy. If someone says that the 5.56mm/5.45mm round is strongly affected by wind then lets consider that for a while, the bullet flies like 950 meters per second, it takes less than half a second to reach optimum range 500 meters which I think is impossible to 7.62x39 or so I learned at FDF, the maximum effective range for 7.62 is 300 meters, beyond that its simple luck to hit a man size target. So how much wind really affects the flight pattern of 5.56 round, any experts out here who can tell?
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Hmm…
Indonesia dropped with 7.62x51mm BM-59 (similar to M-14) for the 7.62x39mm AK-47 then dropped that for the 5.56x45mm M-16A1 and then for the FN-FNC/SS-1 of the same caliber. Just an example of a nation in combat getting what they think is best. The only people in Indonesia which use the AK-47 as a stanard rifle are naval special forces (divers who do not get into many shoot outs) and militia men who are around to shoot villagers. Even thier elite units (Kostrad for example) mostly use the FN-FNC and M-16A1 along with the M-249 for heavier support. The only edge the AK-47 has seems in really rough handling. As a combat weapon the M-16 family seems to be the more popular around the world. I personally figure the 5.56mm M-16s are more capable then the AK-47s in terms of accuracy and range as well as having less weight, which are things that matter in wartime. |
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As much as I loath the AK-47 I would still take it over M16 but only when I go to the rifle range, in combat situation my weapon is PKM mahcinegun since I was a squad mahcinegunner in army
The main reason I like AK more is the price, M16 costs about 1300-1900 euros depending on the variant while you can get an AK with just 250 euros in good working condition. Here in Finland the M16 along with H&K G3 is quite popular and most people ingore the high price but they must have some extra cash ![]() |
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Is that why over 100 million AK's were made, as opposed to about 15 million M16's? These simple facts prove you outright wrong. |
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