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    short-barreled .45 ammo

    I recently purchased an S&W .45 auto with a 3-3/4" barrel that I load with 230gr hydroshocks. I wanted to know if anybody has any definative data on what loads consistenly expand at the lower velocity offered by the 3-3/4 barrel vs the standard 5" barrel (I hope my hydroshocks will)

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    It is better to use heavy bullets with a short barrel.

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    I use Cor-Bon 165gr +P in all .45s that will feed it. At over 600 ft-lbs of muzzle energy it is nearly 2x as powerful as the 'legendary 230gr .45acp "hardball" GI load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBodnar39 View Post
    I recently purchased an S&W .45 auto with a 3-3/4" barrel that I load with 230gr hydroshocks. I wanted to know if anybody has any definative data on what loads consistenly expand at the lower velocity offered by the 3-3/4 barrel vs the standard 5" barrel (I hope my hydroshocks will)

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    I have heard that an early batch of the 230 grain Hydrashock was slightly defective and loaded to a lower than spec MV but it still consistently expanded when used in Panama.

    That was industry scuttle butt in the early 90s; let me see if I can track down the guy who told me that and clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper View Post
    I use Cor-Bon 165gr +P in all .45s that will feed it. At over 600 ft-lbs of muzzle energy it is nearly 2x as powerful as the 'legendary 230gr .45acp "hardball" GI load.
    M21,

    I have no experience with that loading but it sounds HOT.

    I tend to be a bit conservative when recommending carry ammo but have always been impressed with Remington's 185 grain +P .45 ACP loading.

    The combination of ball spec ogive with a case cannelure resolves the problems that have plagued many commercial hollow point loads.

    Of course, hot is as hot does. If I told you how many grains of Blue Dot we used to put under a Speer #4473 for shits and giggles in 5 inch 1911s and Ruger P90s, you would probably call me a liar .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift Sword View Post
    M21,

    I have no experience with that loading but it sounds HOT.

    I tend to be a bit conservative when recommending carry ammo but have always been impressed with Remington's 185 grain +P .45 ACP loading.

    The combination of ball spec ogive with a case cannelure resolves the problems that have plagued many commercial hollow point loads.

    Of course, hot is as hot does. If I told you how many grains of Blue Dot we used to put under a Speer #4473 for shits and giggles in 5 inch 1911s and Ruger P90s, you would probably call me a liar .

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    Well i agree that the Remington .45ACP 185gr +P JHP is a FANTASTIC loading, and has the added benefit of feeding reliably in almost any good quality .45 handgun ever made. The 165gr Cor-Bon uses the highly agressive Sierra JHP, and is more prone to a failure to feed in M1911 pattern weapons, but in those that feed it, it is SERIOUSLY nasty stuff....about 20% more powerful than even the Remington 185gr +P!(just going from memory, i think the Rem stuff is about 530fpe and the Cor-Bon stuff is about 650fpe, but id check those figures if you want to be sure about the exact specifics)

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    IIRC,

    The Corbon is 573 ftlbs of knockdown. The Remington is 534# and it worked great in my Officer's model. It was also extremely accurate at 25 yards with it. I also remember the slide slamming back awfully hard. You might want to consider changing the recoil springs to protect the weapon and also to improve reliability. I say the latter because it seems like the slide would occasionally close on an empty magazine because of the speed of the slide closing.
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