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Reply With QuoteYes but the SWS was made out of the same material as the AR-15.Originally Posted by sniperdude411
He never said he create the AR-15 before anything else.
No need to get into any technicalities
He never said he create the AR-15 before anything else.
No need to get into any technicalities
Yes but the SWS was made out of the same material as the AR-15.He never said he create the AR-15 before anything else.
No need to get into any technicalities
I have no problem bowing to your knowledge of Stoner's history. Small arms are definitely my weak point.
However, as sniperdude pointed out, I never mentioned a specific timeline, I simply said He decided that such materials would make excellent rifle components and so eventually developed the AR-15 for Armalite.
My purpose in that post was to provide a thumbnail brief on the AK, AR and UZI, and I will be the first to admit that it's of the "rough and ready" variety.
Thank you for rescuing us from total verbal disaster.
I don't like technicality wars.
http://198.144.2.125/MG42/FULL/Sturmgewehr.wmv
Here's a video of a Stg. 44 in operation. Cool!
"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So wake up, Mr. Freeman. Wake up and smell the ashes." G-Man
The Institute For Tactical Education had a really good series on the STG 44 (including translated after action reports) but I can't seem to find it on the net. My hard copies are long since disappeared.
StG44s are closer related to the CETME/G3 rifle. In fact, the designers of the StG44, made a next generation, called the StG45 which never reached production because the war ended. They fled to Spain, set up shop with Centro de Estudios Tecnicos de Materiales
Eespeciales (CETME) and then brought their design over to HK in the late 50s, and the G3 resulted (basically a second gen CETME). An AK, while it may look externally like an StG44 is not at all the same system. The Soviets liked the look, but the system the Kalashnikov was based on, was already designed and put into use, the SKS. Even the short cartridge idea employed by the Germans for use in the StG44, was independently pursued by the Soviets, the M43, came out in 1943, which we all know as the "AK round", 7.62x39mm
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