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    Malaysia Replaces Steyr Assault Rifle With Colt M4 Carbine

    Malaysia Replaces Steyr Assault Rifle With Colt M4 Carbine
    April 27 2006 at 9:53 AM
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    PETALING JAYA, April 26 (Bernama) -- The Malaysian Armed Forces will replace in stages their 100,000 Steyr assault rifles with the American-made lightweight Colt M4 Carbine 5.56mm, Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said Wednesday.

    SME Ordnance Sdn Bhd has been appointed to supply and deliver 14,000 Colt M4 Carbines at an estimated cost of RM70 million.

    The Letter of Intent was handed over to the company by Najib at the 10th Defence Services Asia Exhibition 2006 held in Subang here.

    "The Colt M4 Carbine has been found to be the most suitable for the Armed Forces from the aspect of user friendliness and product innovation," he told reporters.

    The government announced recently that the Austrian-made Steyr assault rifle, which had been used for 15 years, would be phased out.

    The Colt M4 Carbine is the standard infantry assault rifle used by the United States military and is favoured in modern tactical combat operations.

    Najib, who is also the Defence Minister, said the delivery of the Colt M4 Carbines would start this year.

    He said the new weapon was designed to accept accessories like a grenade launcher.

    Najib also said the Royal Malaysian Air Force's (RMAF) Pilatus PC-7 MKI turbo trainer aircraft would be phased out in stages and replaced with the PC-7 MKII aircraft.

    The PC-7 MKII is more advanced and equipped with ejector seats which will enable the pilot to escape in any emergency that causes the plane to crash.

    "The first delivery of PC-7 MKII will be made within 16 months from now and it is up to RMAF to decide when to phase out the PC-7 MKI entirely," he said.

    The RM213.4 million contract to supply 10 PC-7 MKII aircraft, one flight training device, supplies and services and standardisation of eight PC-7 MKII was awarded to Pilatus Aircraft Ltd, based in Switzerland.

    Najib also handed over a Letter of Acceptance to Avibras Industria Aerospacial International Ltd of Brazil for the supply and delivery of MLRS Astros II guided missile spares for the Malaysian army at an estimated cost of RM27 million.

    At the event, Najib witnessed the signing of contracts between the Defence Ministry and three local companies for the supply of various types of equipment and services.

    Satang Jaya Sdn Bhd will supply articles, services and technical assistance (specific to safety and survival equipment), Zetro Services Sdn Bhd will supply articles, services and technical assistance for ground electronics and avionics while Sapura Defence Sdn Bhd will provide maintenance of RMAF simulator systems.

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    One word: why?

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    They Malaysians probably aren't impressived with the quality of the AUGs they recieved. One soldier told me they are 4 MOA weapons (what a rip off).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug97
    One word: why?
    Ya, why?...
    "The Colt M4 Carbine has been found to be the most suitable for the Armed Forces from the aspect of user friendliness and product innovation,"
    The Aug Steyr has both these qualities too.

    Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple C
    They Malaysians probably aren't impressived with the quality of the AUGs they recieved. One soldier told me they are 4 MOA weapons (what a rip off).
    Perhaps they got a bad batch, or they got screwed over on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leibstandarte10
    Perhaps they got a bad batch, or they got screwed over on purpose.
    That speaks very low about their quality control and professionalism of the Malaysian defence force.

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    Who's? Steyr's?

    And how does that speak lowly of their professionalism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leibstandarte10
    And how does that speak lowly of their professionalism?
    Not Styer but the Malaysian army DGQA or their equivalent. The M4 colt existed well before the Aug Styer and they were aware of the M4 carbine when they were using the M16 rifles. Secondly, Malaysia manufactures the AUG Styer , so why the hell would they switch to the M4, unless some politician got his palms greased. This sudden discovery of the M4 is rather suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontree
    Not Styer but the Malaysian army DGQA or their equivalent. The M4 colt existed well before the Aug Styer and they were aware of the M4 carbine when they were using the M16 rifles. Secondly, Malaysia manufactures the AUG Styer , so why the hell would they switch to the M4, unless some politician got his palms greased. This sudden discovery of the M4 is rather suspect.
    Hope they go back to M16. Then Singapore can sell off its stock of M16-S2.....
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    Very astute observation, Lemontree. Especially the part about politicians' palms being greased. The current defense minister is also the deputy PM and he comes from a family heavily involved in Malaysian politics. His father was the second PM and guess who's the heir-designate after the current idiot?

    The Malaysian military is hardly professional in any sense. The enlisted men are by and large from the Malay ethnic majority and have a low level of education. The officers aren't that better. Fact is, the brass and officer ranks themselves are quite corrupt.

    The whole organization is just another instrument of control for the dominant ethnic group although not overtly political ie. Suharto's ABRI.

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    I have NO IDEA about the quality of the 'other', but lemme tell ya 'bout the M-4...straigt-up a GREAT weapon. I LOVED mine, and it was CRAZY accurate. I am a dam' good shot, but not competition grade, so to speak, and I was GREAT when paired up with my M-4 and a perfectly-zeroed red-dot sight.

    I can't speak about what they may have given up with the ones that are being replaced, but I can state unequivocally that they won't make any of their soldiers unhappy with an issued M-4. They're FINE.

    I miss my rifle. But I never MISSED with my rifle.
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    The Colt M4 Carbine is the standard infantry assault rifle used by the United States military
    Uh, what?

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    Well the M-4A1 is a lot cheaper then the AUG-A3. First they showed interest in the AUG-A3 which is maybe 2-3 times more expensive. Malaysian SOF have been issued with the CAR-15 for a long time.
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    It must be politics. It HAS to be politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug97
    One word: why?
    This is why:

    He said the new weapon was designed to accept accessories like a grenade launcher.
    The AR-15 family has evolved into a modular weapon system. Replace the standard foregrip with rail system and you can put a bunch of different stuff on it to suit the mission needs, from grenade launcher to a front grip to tactical lights to laser to all sorts of optics.

    This and that politicians' palms have been adequately greased...

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