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    The presidents of the Italian regions of Latium (Rome) and Piemont (Turin) are both among the new infection cases of saturday. These are governors of their respective regions, i.e. of small states with a couple million people. One of them is also chairman of the Italian Democratic Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    5,883 cases as of yesterday evening. 2,651 of these are hospitalized
    PS 7,375 as of sunday evening. 366 dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    One of them is also chairman of the Italian Democratic Party.
    Some one said this

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    the Secretary of the Democratic Party has tested positive to the corona virus; on social media, February 27th, the same politician posted a picture of himself in a bar enjoying a drink with eight other people because (I'm quoting literally) "we can't give up our habits [...] we can't stop Italy [...] our economy is stronger than the fear [...] let's hang out to drink or eat a pizza". That's the "leadership".
    Similar behavior with the Iranian govt before 8% of them fell ill.

    Thing in Iran is people have so little faith in their govt they actually thought the Health minister was bluffing when he said he fell ill and expected him to show up healthy a few days.

    In other words they thought he faked the sickness to show he can recover without actually contracting it. To reassure people that it is not so dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Some one said this
    Which is not quite what he did.

    • Milano, since Feb 23rd, has a curfew on business opening hours - by 6 pm shops must be closed. This is originally by decree of the mayor of Milan, since friday now by federal quarantine law.
    • There's a rather massive marketing campaign (Milano non si ferma - Milan isn't closed) initiated by the mayor and backed by the Democratic Party and business owners.
    • Governor Nicola Zingaretti, on invitation of the mayor, visited such a restaurant on the 27th after curfew, eating there with a small closed group. This was basically a press OP for the above marketing campaign.


    There is a supposed tweet which suggests Zingaretti made it that evening from the restaurant, stating:

    "Un aperitivo a Milano, ho raccolta l'appello lanciato dal sindace Sala e dal Pd Milano. Non perdiamo le nostre abitudini, non possiamo fermare Milano e l'Italia."
    "An aperitif in Milan, where i picked up the invitation of Mayor Sala and the Democratic Party. We can't lose our habits, we can not close Milan or Italy."

    I use the word "supposed" because its only "proof" is a purported screenshot published only yesterday by a presumably non-Italian guy who otherwise in the last few weeks has been posting a bunch of rightwing political diatribe on local Italian politics. Haven't seen anyone in Italy itself pick it up from him, only seen it mentioned by the usual neofascist lobbyists in the anglophone social media world. There is no photo with the supposed tweet btw.
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    Germany : 800 cases to date

    Deaths ? Zero

    Interesting : )

    Secret ? Barley, hops & water. No additives. It's a 400 yr old recipe.

    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    Which is not quite what he did.

    [list][*]Milano, since Feb 23rd, has a curfew on business opening hours - by 6 pm shops must be closed. This is originally by decree of the mayor of Milan, since friday now by federal quarantine law.
    Yes, Italy declared red zones on Feb 23

    A friend called yesterday. His wife & son are currently in Italy on a vacation !!

    Rome, Naples and some where else. Don't think they went further north.

    They left on Feb 14 and expected back on Mar 20

    I don't know why they went on Feb 14, maybe did not know what was happening in the news but the Indian govt isn't going to let them out of the airport i think. Straight off to a army base into quarantine for 28 days.

    We will know soon enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Secret ? Barley, hops & water. No additives. It's a 400 yr old recipe.
    Actually it was an event where just that featured heavily that became the main vector through which the virus spread in Germany. A carnival get-together in the town of Gangelt on February 15th with about 300 people.

    The majority of the currently 500 cases in the state can be traced back through infection chains to attendees of that party.

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    Coronavirus: 'No rationale' for cancelling sport events in the UK - government | BBC | Mar 10 2020

    "Based upon the current scientific advice from the Government's medical experts there is no rationale to close or cancel sporting events as things stand," the DCMS said.
    Sounds so reassuring but what a load of bunk.

    UK are being quite laid back. Not to panic means do not be proactive it seems ?

    Infected in the UK stands at 300+. They do drive by screening like the Koreans who have completed 150k tests to date. But no data is available on how many tests the Brits have completed so far.

    17 flights from Milan arrived in the UK on Sunday. No screening of passengers done on arrival. As a result its safe to assume no advice was given to thee passengers to self quarantine for at least 14 days either.

    Apparently they rely on flight crews to screen for sick passengers !!
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    Iran temporarily releases 70,000 prisoners as coronavirus cases surge | Reuters | Mar 09 2020

    Iranian prisoners have been infected with coronavirus, the United Nations said on Monday.

    “Recent reports indicate that the COVID-19 virus has spread inside Iranian prisons,” Javaid Rehman, the U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in Iran, said in Geneva on Monday.
    It's not clear to me why they released the prisoners if they are infected. Why they could not just segregate the ones that were infected from the rest.

    It turns out they are 'political' prisoners

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    Research from a Chinese paper found the below : (

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    As explained here

    Implication being in colder temperatures it can survive for LONGER than that !!

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    So in these articles I read published at the start of February the cornoavirus that is being spread around is a genetically modified version containing spliced SARS traits that are rumored to have been stolen from a camnadan laboratory by a chilese spy and taken to amerca to get spread biological weapon style.
    Hit the grape lethally.

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    Let me guess, the same articles say that the Democrats are behind it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    Let me guess, the same articles say that the Democrats are behind it?
    Not at all, but also noteworthy is that no large and important publishers with wide reader bases published this article.
    Hit the grape lethally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Plans View Post
    Not at all, but also noteworthy is that no large and important publishers with wide reader bases published this article.
    Have you consider maybe because it's bunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WABs_OOE View Post
    Have you consider maybe because it's bunk?
    Fake news. I should permanently relegate all published articles with a reader base less than .5m to the don't read fake news pile.
    Hit the grape lethally.

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    Or how about using that brain of yours? READ BOTH sides of the arguement and then decide. So far, there are a lot more arguements against a bio weapon than for. If it is a bio weapon, then this thing ain't very useful. Long gestuation period. Minimal combat effectiveness reduction. Non localized. Friendly fire propability intolerably high.

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