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  • #16
    Originally posted by Amled
    Let's not forget Isandhlwana, where Zulus armed only with assergis who made sure that it was the Mighty British that died mercifully!
    Does the term Phyrric victory mean nothing to you?

    For a nation that at one time ruled 1/4 of the Earth, the Brits did manage to loes some battles spectacularly.
    "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sparten
      Does the term Phyrric victory mean nothing to you?

      For a nation that at one time ruled 1/4 of the Earth, the Brits did manage to loes some battles spectacularly.
      You misunderstood; I’m not denigrating the British Army, I’m denigrating the notion of an ever-victorious British army!
      They like all armies had their ups and their downs. One downer was Isandhlwana. The up came a few days later at Rorkes Drift.
      Yes the battle of Isandhlwana might be considered Phyrric for the Zulu nation. But hey, seeing that they were for the grinder any way you cut it, then better to go down fighting then just waiting for Chelmford and his merry men to kick the door in and help themselves to the Zulu nation.
      When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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      • #18
        The Zulu victory certainly wasn't phyrric, it gave them instant fame and bought them a place in history. Its the only reason people know who Zulus are today.
        Last edited by Aryan; 14 Jul 05,, 11:32.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Aryan
          The Zulu victory certainly wasn't phyrric, it gave them instant fame and bought them a place in history. Its the only reason people know who Zulus are today.
          If it wasn't phyrric, then i don't know what it was. Isandhlwana might have bought the Zulus momentary fame, but the result was that the British to satiate their national honour made it a point to grind the Zulu nation and people into the dust.
          When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Aryan
            The Zulu victory certainly wasn't phyrric, it gave them instant fame and bought them a place in history. Its the only reason people know who Zulus are today.

            A victory like that, they could have done without.

            With the exception of the Yanks and the Afghans, the Poms eventually beat everybody.
            "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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            • #21
              The reason why I said The British is because they have defeated everyone. And every war they lost, they re-organized and re-grouped and came back. They were great politic players. With the Sikh-Anglo wars, the same thing happened. The sikhs defeated the Great British many times, until Maharaja Ranjit Singh passed away (heart problems). The sikhs did not possess guns like the British did, but at the end of the day, it was the British who used pure Master Minds against the Sikhs to finally defeat them. Hence forth, in todays world, it is again the British, who is on top, along with the United States Of America. You can't really compare any Muslim War Lords against the British, because look at todays world, if the Muslims were really as powerful as the stories say, what happened to them? No Afghanistan, No Iraq... Is Iran supposed to rule the world one day?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lord General
                The reason why I said The British is because they have defeated everyone. And every war they lost, they re-organized and re-grouped and came back.
                They never came back to the United States after the war of 1812.

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                • #23
                  They also found Afghanistan too hard a nut to chew. After a couple of wars decided it wasn't worth the the lives or effort it would take to subjugate it.
                  When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Praxus
                    They never came back to the United States after the war of 1812.
                    It was a half-hearted effort anyway. They were too busy in Spain and afterwords they felt it was not worth it. Otherwise instead of Ned Parkhem (spelling), Jackson would have faced Wellington. Not much doubt in guessing the result there.
                    "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sparten
                      It was a half-hearted effort anyway. They were too busy in Spain and afterwords they felt it was not worth it. Otherwise instead of Ned Parkhem (spelling), Jackson would have faced Wellington. Not much doubt in guessing the result there.
                      Given the Battle of New Orleans was fought after the War of 1812 offically ended it wouldn't have affected the outcome terribly.

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                      • #26
                        I have to disagree with Sparta as a choice. From what I understand, the reason there were only 300 at Thermopylae was because the rest wouldn't come as they wanted to celebrate a religious festival.
                        In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                        Leibniz

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Amled
                          They also found Afghanistan too hard a nut to chew. After a couple of wars decided it wasn't worth the the lives or effort it would take to subjugate it.

                          Sikhs defeated the Afghans on many fronts... Maharaja Ranjeet Singh even captured Jammu & Kashmir by defeating the Afghan Moguls: Nalwa Singh was the leader of that army that stormed into Kashmir.

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                          • #28
                            Off topic,
                            When Masai mens dressed in their traditional dress venture in to masai mara even the lord of the jungle Lion(even pride of lions) run away in the opposite direction.
                            Hala Madrid!!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by indianguy4u
                              Off topic,
                              When Masai mens dressed in their traditional dress venture in to masai mara even the lord of the jungle Lion(even pride of lions) run away in the opposite direction.

                              Lions are supposed to be the strongest animal in the kingdom.. If these Masai men are really that fierce looking, which animal are they? You can argue with a Tiger, but Male Lions are bigger

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                              • #30
                                I saw a documentary on Discovery, it was about masai ppl.
                                Hala Madrid!!

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