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    Extent of Chinese cover up of COVID 19?

    There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around on the internet. I am not sure what to believe anymore.

    So I ask the experts at WAB. What was the sequence of events? Who were the actors? One of my complaints about most reports is that they just say "China" as if the entire country is a monolith. This instantly triggers my suspicion.

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    The virus was developed by the Americans @ Area 51, and unleashed on China. Since China is the global manufacturing hegemon, it spread from there. China is not at fault here, America is, and also all gullible Americans who work @ Area 51. The idea was to destroy China's rise by destroying its manufacturing prowess, since democracy wouldn't work on controlled minds.

    You don't have access to news in Aussieland?

    Here, pretty obvious that's propaganda of the highest level, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    The virus was developed by the Americans @ Area 51, and unleashed on China. Since China is the global manufacturing hegemon, it spread from there. China is not at fault here, America is, and also all gullible Americans who work @ Area 51. The idea was to destroy China's rise by destroying its manufacturing prowess, since democracy wouldn't work on controlled minds.

    You don't have access to news in Aussieland?
    I have news, but I haven't watched or read any that's not on the internet for a while. I imagine what they do is passing second hand information around. They don't do their own investigation anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hboGYT View Post
    I have news, but I haven't watched or read any that's not on the internet for a while. I imagine what they do is passing second hand information around. They don't do their own investigation anymore.
    There are 3 threads running concurrently on Covid-19. Please go through them. Btw, I attached a link in my first post in this thread. Give it a look.

    This is the 4th thread. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by hboGYT View Post
    There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around on the internet. I am not sure what to believe anymore.

    So I ask the experts at WAB. What was the sequence of events? Who were the actors? One of my complaints about most reports is that they just say "China" as if the entire country is a monolith. This instantly triggers my suspicion.
    Sack Dr Tedros of WHO: An Appeal to PM Modi | Goa Chronicle | Apr 04 2020



    He speaks more in this chat talks about the WHO being an accomplice in the act. Listen to it.

    Francis Plummer, 'maverick' Canadian scientist who helped in fight against HIV, SARS, dead at 67 | National Post | Feb 04 2020

    Plummer was named an Officer of the Order of Canada in 2006 and a member of the Order of Manitoba three years later. He received numerous prestigious awards throughout his career, including the Flavelle Medal from the Royal Society of Canada in 2018 for his contributions to biological science.
    No idea why Savi thinks there is anything suspicious about Frank Plummer's sudden death in Kenya. He say Plummer was working on some strain of MERS. He says a number of scientists from Wuhan were collaborating with him.


    Over a year old article, don't know if we ever found out since why these researchers has their passes revoked in Canada

    Mystery surrounds ouster of Chinese researchers from Canadian laboratory | Science Mag | Jul 19 2019

    On 5 July, officials at the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg, Canada, escorted Xiangguo Qiu, biologist Keding Cheng, and an unknown number of her students from the lab and revoked their access rights, according to Canadian media reports. The Public Health Agency of Canada, which operates the lab, confirmed it had referred an “administrative matter” matter to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, but said it would not provide additional details because of privacy concerns.

    A number of observers have speculated that case involves concerns about the improper transfer of intellectual property to China. (All of the researchers involved are believed to be Asian.) But Frank Plummer, a former scientific director of NML who left in 2015, says the lab isn’t an obvious target for academic or industrial espionage. “There is nothing highly secret there, and all the work gets published in the open literature,” he says. “I don’t know what anyone would hope to gain by spying.”
    Miles Guo says all sorts of crazy shit about China. The man is a refugee in the US because he cannot shut up.

    Dead: founder of Canada’s P4 Lab, key to Wuhan coronavirus investigation | GNews | Feb 07 2020

    The man has such a thick Chinese accent when he speaks english, of course he must be genuine !!!
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    Just a thought from Terminal Lance

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    This one by the US ambassador to the UK

    China’s Secrets and Lies turned COVID-19 Into a Global Threat | US Embassy | Mar 26 2020

    Ambassador Robert Wood Johnson
    March 26, 2020

    “A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting its boots on.” That statement, often attributed to Mark Twain, is especially true in the 21st century. In today’s age of social media it has unfortunately become normal to see false information reach a broad audience instantaneously.

    It is bad enough when conspiracy-theory cranks spread dangerous misinformation around the world. It is far worse, and more dangerous, when malign misinformation is spread by a government’s officials. And that is exactly what the People’s Republic of China has been doing, spreading false accusations about the origin and spread of the coronavirus.

    The facts about Covid-19 are undisputed. The outbreak originated in the city of Wuhan in China’s Hubei province. The government of China knew there was a new Sars-like virus in December. For a country that aspires to a global leadership role, China’s obligations to the international community were obvious — transparently share what it knew about the virus with world health officials and co-ordinate quickly with world governments to stop this highly contagious disease before it became a pandemic.

    The Chinese government did not do this.

    First it tried to suppress the news. Then, it worked to protect its own population while selectively sharing critical information, such as genetic sequence data, and continuing to stonewall international health authorities that were offering assistance, requesting access and seeking more information.

    Had China done the right things at the right time, more of its own population, and the rest of the world, might have been spared the most serious impact of this disease.


    Instead, China accused other countries of spreading the virus and, when called out for this blatant and dangerous propaganda, its officials complained indignantly about the “politicisation” of the virus’s origin.

    We all know how we got here. What we need to focus on now is how we get through this. The world faces a common threat to public health and we need countries to work together to save lives and protect the global economy. People are not interested in the Chinese government’s efforts to shift blame. They want to make sure they have enough masks and gloves for their healthcare workers and enough beds and ventilators for their sick.

    We must all redouble our efforts to co-operate and share information about this disease rapidly and transparently. The US government has pledged $100 million so far to help countries around the world combat the spread of Covid-19, including a $37 million commitment by the US Agency for International Development to provide assistance to 25 countries at high risk for the spread of the virus. Our Centres for Disease Control and Prevention have been at the forefront of the global effort to understand and tackle the virus and to issue sound public health advice. Our scientists and biotech companies are collaborating around the world to seek both a new vaccine for the virus and look at existing anti-viral and other medicines to help stop the disease in its tracks and save lives.

    President Trump has directed our scientists and government to work transparently and co-operatively with their global counterparts. Here in London, my team is doing just that, both at the highest levels of government and by acting as good neighbours. Our diplomats and yours are working around the clock to make sure senior American and UK officials are getting resources and information where it is needed most. In London, Belfast, Edinburgh and Hamilton, I have instructed my team to use technology, creativity and common sense to carry out our critical work while taking measures to fight contagion and help flatten the curve of infection rate.

    We are not just working bilaterally. Together with the UK we are working through multilateral forums like the UN, G7 and Nato as we explore every resource to mitigate the damage and take care of the most vulnerable.

    We are also taking time to recognise those everyday heroes who are helping us all. These are the doctors and nurses, but also the grocery store clerks, pharmacists, food delivery drivers and so many more who help keep the country ticking along. It includes everyone who is helping to flatten the curve by self-isolating, washing their hands and following the government’s good advice.

    But when the crisis finally abates we should take stock of the outcome and evaluate the costs of this breakdown in international collaboration, the effects of suppressing important information, the impact of stonewalling information-sharing during the early stages of the pandemic, and the fallout from disinformation campaigns throughout the course of this pandemic.
    American CDC might be at the forefront of the global effort but didn't do such a great job at home.

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