NY Governor Andrew Cuomo mentioned a few minutes ago in press conference that the infection doubling interval has slowed from three days toward nearly four days.
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Originally posted by Firestorm View PostSir, the Chinese lockdown was incredibly strict. I mean they were forcibly barricading people in their own homes at one point. We saw the videos.
I've seen those videos too but what was lacking was the context which i've since figured out.
Originally posted by JRT View PostNY Governor Andrew Cuomo mentioned a few minutes ago in press conference that the infection doubling interval has slowed from three days toward nearly four days.Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Mar 20,, 17:20.
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Originally posted by astralis View Postcorrect, the re-infection threat will remain for the foreseeable future.
that doesn't prevent Xi Jinping from crowing about it, though.
the rural areas are going to get devastated once it hits, given their healthcare systems.
on a bigger scale, once it really goes into Africa and Brazil, those places are going to turn into complete sh*tshows.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostI think the real question is why is the US case percentage higher than the Chinese?
Originally posted by snapper View PostI am not saying you should trust the Chinese statistics
I find this rejection of Chinese data so knee jerk. Commies lie. It's what they do. Then show me where the lies are.
Look at them
Why does the CCP admit to so many in Wuhan & Hubei. Makes the victory that much sweeter if you paint the opponent ten times taller. How does commie psychology work here snapper ?
Notice the numbers in Taiwan & HK. Can we trust them. If not then Taiwan & HK are lying too. So is Japan.
Otherwise why is it that other cities in China cannot replicate the same
When all four have had experience of SARS already.
That experience is lacking in countries that did not go though it
Their decision making was slower as a result.Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Mar 20,, 18:01.
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^ Africa I can understand, but why do you say Brazil?
Brazil's gonna get effed so hard in two weeks.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostRural life is the very definition of social distancing. You litterally had to drive to your next door neighbour.
You cannot turn Africa into a shitshow when it is already a shitshow. If H1N1 is any example, Africa would neither care nor notice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_f...emic_in_Africa
Only ebola elicit a national response. COVID-19 is just another flu. The young gets bed ridden. The old dies. That is life in Africa."The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood"-Otto Von Bismarck
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Rural life is the very definition of social distancing. You litterally had to drive to your next door neighbour.
there's enough medium-sized cities there, like Oklahoma City or Boise or Omaha, that there will still be significant spread.
You cannot turn Africa into a shitshow when it is already a shitshow. If H1N1 is any example, Africa would neither care nor notice.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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Originally posted by Double Edge View PostBut you cannot just reject it wholesale either.
I find this rejection of Chinese data so knee jerk. Commies lie. It's what they do. Then show me where the lies are.
Why does the CCP admit to so many in Wuhan & Hubei. Makes the victory that much sweeter if you paint the opponent ten times taller. How does commie psychology work here snapper ?
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Originally posted by GVChamp View PostRural areas still go to churches and they still go to town to go to restaurants.
Originally posted by astralis View Postthere's enough medium-sized cities there, like Oklahoma City or Boise or Omaha, that there will still be significant spread.
Also, SOP is always whatever we can't handle, we ship to the nearest available help be it Ottawa, Kingston, or Brockville. It may suck for those cities if being swarned but nowhere in the West have we left people out to die on the streets.
Originally posted by astralis View PostSouth Africa and Rwanda are already on lockdown. Nigeria's already ordered schools closed. this ain't "neither care nor notice".
Again. Looking at this from a military POV, COVID-19 deaths are regrettable, extremely so, but acceptable.Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 27 Mar 20,, 18:35.Chimo
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I am not saying that the Chinese are knowingly lying - though that is also possible - but that in all such things absolutely accurate statistics are nigh on impossible to gather.
http://shanghaiist.com/2020/03/27/ur...-chinas-tally/There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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All closed.
That ain't rural. I'm an hour away from Ottawa and there has been only one COVID-19 case in the next county 2 weeks ago and nothing since. I know it's ancedotic but the math ain't there for a panic about rural areas.
Also, SOP is always whatever we can't handle, we ship to the nearest available help be it Ottawa, Kingston, or Brockville. It may suck for those cities if being swarned but nowhere in the West have we left people out to die on the streets.
3 countries out an entire continent is hardly Africa and Rwanda has an ethenic political/military agenda for lockdown and it ain't about COVID-19.
Again. Looking at this from a military POV, COVID-19 deaths are regrettable, extremely so, but acceptable.There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov
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Originally posted by astralis View Posthigh population density -- insanely high in the favelas--, poor healthcare system, and a President who's busy imitating Trump.
Brazil's gonna get effed so hard in two weeks.Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post3 countries out an entire continent is hardly Africa and Rwanda has an ethenic political/military agenda for lockdown and it ain't about COVID-19.
African health ministers gathered for a meeting as early as Feb 22 and the African CDC has been working hard to deliver over 1 million test kits and other equipment, train health care and even aviation workers in appropriate protocols for detection & treatment and set up test labs. Those training programs involve numerous countries not already mentioned (Cape Verde, Malawi, Eswatini, Botswana, Zambia, Sao Tome & Principe, Cameroon, Cote D'Ivoire, Chad, Mauritius, Mauritania, Niger, Ghana, Egypt, Tunisia). There is a continent wide awareness and continent wide action.
It is true that Africa has many, many problems and that some areas are sufficiently chaotic that pandemics such as this are not going to get treated with the seriousness they deserve. However, to treat the entire continent as if those areas are representative is not simply inaccurate, it is lazy. Well below your usual standards Sir. Africa has a much keener understanding o the danger of epidemics than most places, and in some areas it has experience that few nations have. It also has many more vulnerable people than most places - including 20 million HIV positive people who are especially vulnerable. More than most places Africa knows that failure to stop this early could have very serious repercussions - their health systems can't cope, so better to stop it early. Many African nations are trying to deal with this and many are starting their preparations well ahead of the virus. They may fail, but it won't be because they did not take this seriously.
https://www.africanews.com/2020/03/2...d-19-pandemic/sigpic
Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C
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Originally posted by astralis View Postit's China and the CCP. they're almost certainly lying, although it's not in the same league as Iran.
http://shanghaiist.com/2020/03/27/ur...-chinas-tally/
People who get sick and unable to get treatment might just die at home instead of some where else without family around. They won't be counted as covid deaths.
This means case fatality rate could be higher as a result and will be with the earlier cases that had the more virulent 'L' strain as opposed to the one that came after the 'S' strain.
You're not poking at their data hard enough i feel : )Last edited by Double Edge; 28 Mar 20,, 01:54.
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Originally posted by astralis View Postnot in the US...quite a few red states have yet to take action.
Originally posted by astralis View Postrural for the US. plus, it gets bad enough, even -those- places will get hit. most farmers, after all, buy their stuff from a grocery store like the rest of us.
Originally posted by astralis View Postwe're just arguing semantics at this point. yeah, Africa is messed up in the best of times -- COVID will make it even worse. 3% death rate isn't Black Death, but it's not -nothing-, either.
Originally posted by astralis View Postin the US context, it is not acceptable at all. people are dying because of poor leadership and poor preparation. we had two months warning and the leadership of this country did squat all with it.
Originally posted by Bigfella View PostThey may fail, but it won't be because they did not take this seriously.
https://www.africanews.com/2020/03/2...d-19-pandemic/
They're far more serious about killing each other than about COVID-19.
Even Egypt, I count them and South Africa as the more realistic countries in Africa, is not putting resources into the fight, recording 536 cases while next door Israel has over 3,000. You cannot tell me that Egypt is anywhere close to ready to handle COVID-19. Willingly or forced by circumstance, the Egyptians are ignoring COVID-19. You can't treat people for COVID-19 if you don't know they have it. The young gets bed ridden. The old dies and very few people would learn if it's COVID-19 or not. That is just life in EgyptLast edited by Officer of Engineers; 28 Mar 20,, 02:23.Chimo
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