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    Quote Originally Posted by GVChamp View Post
    Hopefully warm weather, limited quarantine, and obsessive hand-washing limits the spread so we can ride out this season and prepare for 2020-2021. After that, it's going to die out and just become an endemic childhood disease with sporadic outbreaks.
    It'll probably become part of the annual flu/cold season that affects the entire population, becoming less lethal as the years go by, and mutating into different strains that bypass any immunity conferred by earlier strains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    It'll probably become part of the annual flu/cold season that affects the entire population, becoming less lethal as the years go by, and mutating into different strains that bypass any immunity conferred by earlier strains.
    Right, and this is where the 60 to 80% of us all will eventually get it comes in I think.

    Unless a vaccine comes out but that is at least a year or two away, if we're lucky.

    They never came out with one for SARS or MERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVChamp View Post
    Right, doubling every 2 weeks assumes basically no quarantine, but you need to aggressively test and aggressively quarantine once you get to something like 10s of 1000s of cases. The problem is that the virus is going to be heavily localized, so even though Alabama might be fine, New York and Washington will be maxing out their ICU capacity pretty quick.
    Not doubling every 2 weeks. Doubling every 6 days for 5 doublings per month

    Degree of infection in terms of proportion works out as follows

    80% mild
    15% serious
    5% critical

    It's that 5% that need ICU care.

    If you have a million infected then you have 50k. No country can handle that many at one time.

    If you have 50k infected then you have 2.5k that need ICU. Possible ?

    Being heavily localized depends on how strictly a quarantine is imposed at the city level

    Nobody gets in or out unless healthy.

    If you do not impose such strict quarantines then it will metastatise and be harder to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    Basically we've found out that US preparedness isn't much better than a third-world country, even though we've had the better part of two months to prepare. CDC is behind the curve, our health authorities are severely fragmented, we've only been able to perform a couple thousand tests for the disease. We've got the shittiest sick leave policies of any first-world country, meaning zero days guaranteed by law, optional for employers to offer it or not. Most low-income workers have no sick leave in this country, which means a great many go to work sick, the alternative being getting evicted, then moving into your car or under a bridge. These sorts of jobs are the least likely to offer health insurance as well.

    I've read about people getting billed thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for government-ordered quarantine, which is a fucking joke.

    We have a president who asked if the flu vaccine provides any protection against the coronavirus. Maybe he thinks that pock mark on his upper arm vaccinated him against STDs too. Or maybe it really did cause autism, in his case.

    Personally, I'm not too worried about it, to be honest. Even though I have no health insurance, or any sort of compensation in the event of work slowing down. Luckily I've managed some savings. Wish I had enough to go vacation in Venice. I'd have the whole city all to myself.

    But I do think this epidemic is about to expose some serious structural flaws in the way we conduct our affairs in this country.
    I'm not clear as to what the hold up at the CDC was about. Something about not getting the right info in time from China.

    Then how did the Koreans get going so quick ? does not add up.

    Korea had to deal with super spreaders and it became impossible to do contact tracing after this one woman infected 60 in her church. They just locked the district down.

    Thing with the US is after x number of Americans die, light bulbs switch on and the push to start a Manhattan project begins. Tackle it on a war foooting.

    If you want to be sure to beat this thing in its tracks that's the only way.

    How many is x ?

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    Coronavirus is exposing Trump's unsuitability to handle a crisis

    President Trump’s bombastic style has served him well through many stages of his political career, but as the coronavirus spreads rapidly throughout the United States, it is exposing how deeply unsuited he is to deal with a genuine crisis that he can’t bluff his way through.

    It’s one thing for Trump to insist he had a “perfect” phone call and have all his Republican minions fall in line. It’s another thing to downplay a growing epidemic as more and more Americans get sick.

    On February 26th, Trump patted himself on the back for the relatively low number of cases in the U.S. “You have 15 people, and the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done," he said. By March 5, he was tweeting that the U.S. had “only 129.” Just a day later, he said there were 240 cases, portraying this as a low number relative to the seasonal flu.

    Sunday morning, he avoided stating any number in touting, “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!”

    As of this writing, Johns Hopkins has tracked 428 cases in the U.S.

    When Trump was elected, many of his critics feared that he could talk the U.S. into a nuclear war. Those fears have not been realized, as Trump has proven generally averse to military conflict, actually more averse than many of his predecessors. He’s also overcome a number of scandals through a combination of relentless attacks on the media and his political enemies, and overreach among his opponents in both camps. But this is something different. Trump will be judged on his handling of the spread of a virus. And the outcome will be clear no matter how many things he makes up, no matter how confident he pretends to be, and no matter how many insults he heaves.

    If anybody was hoping that Trump had the ability to rise to the moment, his comments upon touring the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention should disabuse them of that notion.

    Trump, speaking from the facility with a red “Keep America Great” campaign hat, found time to praise the ratings of his townhall interview on Fox News. He declared, “I don’t watch CNN because CNN is fake news.” He attacked Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, who is dealing with the most deadly coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., as a “snake.”


    Dipping into the greatest hits from his impeachment defense, Trump said of the CDC tests that have run into significant problems, “the tests are all perfect, like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect, right? This was not as perfect as that, but pretty good.”

    When it came to the matter of testing, Trump also lied, and revealed staggering ignorance. In the face of questions about the disastrously slow rollout of testing in the U.S., Trump insisted, “Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is.”

    That is not remotely true. There have been many stories of people’s futile efforts to try and get tested. Last Thursday, for instance, a registered nurse exhibiting symptoms in quarantine after having cared for a coronavirus patient, wrote of her difficulty obtaining a test even after it was okayed by a local health official.


    Here in Washington, DC, where the first case was announced Saturday, health officials said they had the capacity to test 50 people a day. There is currently restrictive criteria for who can get tested.

    South Korea, in contrast, has set up drive through centers, where individuals can get a sample taken in a few minutes without getting out of their cars, and get results back within a few days. This is exactly the sort of outside the box innovative solution that one would think a guy who ran as a practical businessman type would want to encourage or at least look into. Instead, Trump said “they’re not testing. They’re sampling people in other countries.”

    When a reporter interjected that those samples are then being tested, Trump said, “No, no — excuse me, there’s a difference. I heard what he said. They’re sampling people. It’s a drive-by. They give samples. Now, can we do that? Yeah, we can do that, but that’s not effective like what we’re doing.”


    The lack of adequate testing may be keeping the numbers of identified cases artificially low in the U.S., but they are also preventing public health officials from being able to identify areas of outbreak early enough to take steps to mitigate the spread. The more that we can make the spread of the virus more gradual, the easier it will be to make sure that we have enough medical capacity to treat the cases of those who require hospitalization. From what we saw in China, the fatality rate is heavily correlated with how overwhelmed the medical system becomes.

    But the most stunning part of Trump’s press conference came when he said that, despite the recommendation of health officials, he was reluctant to let Americans off of a cruise ship with 21 infected, because it would increase the reported numbers of cases. He said he would defer to the vice president, and there is now news that the passengers will be let off.

    Yet it was quite revealing into Trump’s thought process that he said, “I would rather — because I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship. That wasn’t our fault, and it wasn’t the fault of the people on the ship, either.”

    Trump appears to be more concerned with numbers that might make him look bad in the short-term, then he is with actually taking the most prudent measures to save lives over time.


    The current crisis is revealing what many critics feared in a potential Trump presidency. He simply has not shown an ability to break out of his typical antics, and treat the moment with the seriousness with which it deserves.
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    How can Trump break out of his typical antics and treat a moment with the seriousness with which it deserves? He's a sociopath and therefore devoid of any empathy for anything or anyone but himself:

    He poses for pictures with the victims of a mass shooting with a big shit-eating grin and a thumbs up.
    He talks about tornado fatalities without even a pro forma expression of sympathy
    He fidgets and 'air conducts' like a small child during the National Anthem.

    Well at least's he's the anti-lefty and supposedly against abortion. So we've got that going for us.


    FYI - This op-ed is from the Washington Examiner, "a conservative political news site and weekly magazine that often has the president’s back."

    Pretty pathetic when not even a site like that can muster a Kellyanne Conway-style denial of reality.
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    There Is a ‘Tipping Point’ Before Coronavirus Kills

    By Jason Gale
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    The new coronavirus causes little more than a cough if it stays in the nose and throat, which it does for the majority of people unlucky enough to be infected. Danger starts when it reaches the lungs.

    One in seven patients (14%) develops difficulty breathing and other severe complications, while 6% become critical. These patients typically suffer failure of the respiratory and other vital systems, and sometimes develop septic shock, according to a report by last month’s joint World Health Organization-China mission.

    The progression from mild or moderate to severe can occur “very, very quickly,” said Bruce Aylward, a WHO assistant director-general who co-led a mission in China that reviewed data from 56,000 cases. Understanding the course of the disease and identifying individuals at greatest risk are critical for optimizing care for a global contagion that’s killed more than 3,700 people since emerging in central China in December.

    About 10-15% of mild-to-moderate patients progress to severe and of those, 15-20% progress to critical. Patients at highest risk include people age 60 and older and those with pre-existing conditions such as hypertension, diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

    “The clinical picture suggests a pattern of disease that’s not dissimilar to what we might see in influenza,” said Jeffery K. Taubenberger, who studied the infection in Spanish flu victims, including one exhumed more than 20 years ago from permafrost in northwestern Alaska.

    Covid-19 most likely spreads via contact with virus-laden droplets expelled from an infected person’s cough, sneeze or breath.

    Infection generally starts in the nose. Once inside the body, the coronavirus invades the epithelial cells that line and protect the respiratory tract, said Taubenberger, who heads the viral pathogenesis and evolution section of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland. If it’s contained in the upper airway, it usually results in a less severe disease.

    But if the virus treks down the windpipe to the peripheral branches of the respiratory tree and lung tissue, it can trigger a more severe phase of the disease. That’s due to the pneumonia-causing damage inflicted directly by the virus plus secondary damage caused by the body’s immune response to the infection.

    “Your body is immediately trying to repair the damage in the lung as soon as it’s happening,” Taubenberger said. Various white blood cells that consume pathogens and help heal damaged tissue act as first-responders. “Normally, if this goes well, you can clear up your infection in just a few days.”

    In some more-severe coronavirus infections, the body’s effort to heal itself may be too robust, leading to the destruction of not just virus-infected cells, but healthy tissue, Taubenberger said. Damage to the epithelium lining the trachea and bronchi can result in the loss of protective mucus-producing cells as well as the tiny hairs, or cilia, that sweep dirt and respiratory secretions out of the lungs.

    “You have no ability to keep stuff out of the lower respiratory tract,” Taubenberger said. As a result, the lungs are vulnerable to an invasive secondary bacterial infection. Potential culprits include the germs normally harbored in the nose and throat, and the antibiotic-resistant bacteria that thrive in hospitals, especially the moist environments of mechanical ventilators.

    Secondary bacterial infections represent an especially pernicious threat because they can kill critical respiratory tract stem cells that enable tissue to rejuvenate. Without them, “you just can’t physically repair your lungs,” Taubenberger said. Damaged lungs can starve vital organs of oxygen, impairing the kidneys, liver, brain and heart.

    “When you get a bad, overwhelming infection, everything starts to fall apart in a cascade,” said David Morens, senior scientific adviser to the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “You pass the tipping point where everything is going downhill and, at some point, you can’t get it back.”

    That tipping point probably also occurs earlier in older people, as it does in experiments with older mice, said Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa in Iowa City, who has studied coronaviruses for 38 years.

    Still, even healthy younger adults have succumbed to the illness. Li Wenliang, the 34-year-old ophthalmologist who was one of the first to warn about the coronavirus in Wuhan, died last month after receiving antibodies, antivirals, antibiotics, oxygen and having his blood pumped through an artificial lung.

    Some people may be more genetically susceptible, possibly because they have a greater abundance of the distinctly shaped protein receptors in their respiratory epithelial cells that the virus targets, Taubenberger said. It’s also possible certain individuals have some minor immunodeficiency or other host factors that relate to underlying illnesses.

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    For Trump, Coronavirus Proves to Be an Enemy He Can't Tweet Away

    PALM BEACH, Fla. — Defending against criticism of his handling of the coronavirus, President Donald Trump suggested the other day that he could hardly have been expected to be ready for such an unexpected crisis.

    “Who would have thought?” he asked during a visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the nerve center for the government’s response to the outbreak. “Who would have thought we would even be having the subject?”

    Actually, quite a few people would have thought, and did — including the officials in his own White House who were in charge of preparing for just such a pandemic only to have their office shut down in a reorganization in 2018. “The threat of pandemic flu is the No. 1 health security concern,” one of the officials said the day before that happened two years ago. “Are we ready to respond? I fear the answer is no.”


    For a president who lives in the moment, rarely planning too far ahead, the coronavirus has proved to be a leadership challenge he was not prepared for either. The outbreak that has rattled the nation does not respond to Trump’s favorite instruments of power: It cannot be cowed by Twitter posts, it cannot be shot down by drones, it cannot be overcome by party solidarity, it cannot be overpowered by campaign rally chants.

    Trump, who is at his strongest politically when he has a human enemy to attack, has seemed less certain of how to take on an invisible killer. The role of calming natural leader is not one that has come easily as he struggles to find the balance between public reassurance and Panglossian dismissiveness. He has predicted that the virus will “miraculously” disappear on its own with warmer weather, suggested a vaccine will be available soon and insisted anyone who wants to be tested can be — all overstated or inaccurate.

    He has expressed an astonishing lack of knowledge while at the same time claiming to be a medical savant. He has treated the crisis as a partisan battle, wearing his red Keep America Great campaign cap to the CDC and calling the governor presiding over the state with the highest death toll a “snake.” He even admitted that he wanted to leave passengers stranded on a cruise ship rather than see statistics for the number of cases on American soil go up because it would look bad.

    “If we really want to talk about what is going to potentially create panic in this country, it’s an administration that’s just not being straight with the American public about the extent of this epidemic and the real-life consequences that could be put upon Americans,” Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said Sunday on “Face the Nation” on CBS.

    Dr. Jonathan Reiner, a prominent cardiologist who treated former Vice President Dick Cheney and wrote a book with him, said he was convinced that the Trump administration failed to move more quickly to test for the virus after it emerged in China because the White House did not want to admit the scope of the threat.

    “When the story is finally written,” he said Sunday, “we’ll come to understand that tens of thousands of lives were placed at risk because of a political decision made by the president.”


    Trump, who was spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, rejected the criticism Sunday, pointing to the travel restrictions he imposed early on China, later adding limits or warnings to other affected places like Iran and parts of South Korea and Italy.

    “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus,” he wrote on Twitter moments after arriving at his golf club in West Palm Beach, where he played with several members of the World Series champion Washington Nationals. “We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!”

    After initially brushing off warnings by his health secretary as “alarmist,” Trump in the last two weeks has taken a more assertive public role on the coronavirus, assigning Vice President Mike Pence to lead the government efforts and making multiple appearances to signal that he takes the threat seriously.

    But he has also taken a business-as-usual approach to the rest of his schedule, refusing to cancel campaign rallies, fundraisers or social events even as other large gatherings of Americans are scrubbed. Asked by a reporter Saturday night if he was worried that infections were getting closer to the White House, Trump said, “No, I’m not concerned at all.”

    The president then went inside Mar-a-Lago to host a lavish birthday party for former Fox News host Kimberly Guilfoyle, who is dating Donald Trump Jr. and turns 51 on Monday, a preview perhaps of the celebration that may be held next month when Melania Trump turns 50. Among those spotted at the revelry were boldface names from Trump’s circle, including Pence, Lindsey Graham, Rudy Giuliani, Tucker Carlson and Matt Gaetz.

    Trump happily introduced his visitor, President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil, to Carlson and other guests in a video shared on social media, boasting that he “gave him a good gift” by not imposing tariffs on Brazil and “that made him much more popular.” Bolsonaro laughed and agreed. A smiling Pence turned to the camera and playfully said, “Sí.”

    The first lady did not make the trip to Florida, but she faced a fiddling-while-Rome-burns blowback of her own over the weekend after posting online photographs of herself in a hard hat overseeing the privately financed construction of a new tennis pavilion at the White House.

    “I encourage everyone who chooses to be negative & question my work at the @WhiteHouse to take time and contribute something good & productive in their own communities,” she wrote on Twitter on Saturday, adding her anti-bullying slogan, “#BeBest.”

    By the president’s own account, the coronavirus has been an education for him. He has acknowledged that “I didn’t know people died from the flu” — tens of thousands, in fact, each year in the United States — even though, as The Washington Post pointed out, his own grandfather died of influenza during the 1918 epidemic.

    But he has credited himself with instinctive understanding of the science. “I like this stuff. I really get it,” he said at the CDC on Friday. “People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

    Trump rejected criticism of the slow distribution of test kits, framing it in terms evoking his battle against impeachment. “The tests are all perfect,” he told reporters, “like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect, right?” — a reference to the rough transcript of his telephone call with Ukraine’s president that led to his own impeachment for abuse of power.

    The president’s less-than-perfect pronouncements, however, left public health officials straining to reconcile them on the Sunday talk shows. Asked on CNN’s “State of the Union” about a White House aide’s assertion that the coronavirus had been “contained,” Dr. Jerome Adams, the surgeon general, said: “Well, this is a novel virus. It’s a new situation. And the messaging, quite frankly, is hard.”

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, also appeared to walk back the president’s claim that “anyone who wants a test can get a test,” saying on “Fox News Sunday” that it would actually be up to a doctor.

    Trump has become such a polarizing figure that even when he is not necessarily wrong, many do not trust him. On Sean Hannity’s Fox News show last week, he called the World Health Organization’s estimated fatality rate of 3.4% “a false number,” saying “my hunch” was that it would be under 1%. It sounded as if he were substituting his uneducated “hunch” for the judgment of professionals.

    But in fact, he was reflecting what he had been told by health experts, including Fauci and Dr. Robert Redfield, the CDC director, who have concluded that once the full scope of unreported infections is known, the number of deaths will most likely represent a smaller share, possibly “considerably less than” 1%. The WHO has also said the rate may fall.

    Still, at his appearance at the CDC, Trump had no explanation for why his White House shut down the Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense established at the National Security Council in 2016 by President Barack Obama after the 2014 Ebola outbreak, stammering to suggest the coronavirus had been a surprise.

    “Well, I just don’t think — I just don’t think that somebody is going to — without seeing something, like we saw something happening in China,” Trump said. “As soon as they saw that happening, they essentially — not from the White House. I mean, you know, we don’t need a lab in the White House. But they saw something happening.”

    Elizabeth Cameron set up the global health security directorate at the White House for Obama before turning it over to Rear Adm. R. Timothy Ziemer, who ran it for Trump until May 2018, when he was pushed out and the directorate folded into other parts of the National Security Council. Had it still been around, it would have been charged with preparing for exactly the situation now facing the country.

    “I think it would have made a difference,” Cameron said Sunday. “Monitoring and preparing for every eventuality and having a person and a directorate accountable for that is really important and could have been important in this case.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    Try walking across a bridge over the river in Chennai in 100 degree weather, when said river is essentially landfill and raw sewage. Worst thing I've ever smelt, I was dry heaving the entire way.

    I don't mean to put down other countries at all, but I'm sure DE has encountered smells far worse than trash not getting picked up for a week in an American subdivision.
    So i was thinking about the temperature and it has been warming up in the last couple of weeks. I'm a mile up so lower down will be warmer still and about to get even warmer.

    We will have plenty of UV but what happens when the monsoons begin around July ? it will get cooler. The strange thing last year is laundry took very long to dry from July to years end.

    This paper shows the virus needs cold & dry to spread.

    With monsoons it can't help this virus if the whole city gets hosed down on a daily basis : )

    Humid is not good. So i imagine DC around June with clams should be ok.
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    I see that the NY Port Authority Director has tested positive for the virus. As it says he spends a lot of time at the airports such as Kennedy and if he picked it up there then......

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/09/n...ronavirus.html

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    It is likely that the virus will dissipate going into the summer months but will return again during the winter. the problem though is that the southern hemisphere will more likely than not be a good indicator as they are moving into winter.

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    Went back to work today. Apparently several employees are out sick, including some employees who NEVER get sick, and we haven't bother stocking the automatic hand sanitizers at every entrance. Email from the company says there is nothing to worry about, just wash your hands.

    Some friends think that there is no point in washing your hands because washing your hands doesn't kill the virus anyways.

    My Dad has COPD and my Mom recently had cancer and my father-in-law seems to have permanent lung damage, so I'm just not leaving the fucking house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllThings View Post
    It is likely that the virus will dissipate going into the summer months but will return again during the winter. the problem though is that the southern hemisphere will more likely than not be a good indicator as they are moving into winter.
    Likely not. 90% of the world's population lives in the northern hemisphere.
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    Coronavirus: Trump administration orders immigration judges to remove CDC posters aimed at slowing outbreak

    The body representing US immigration judges has recommended that coronavirus advice posters from the Centres for Disease Control be posted in court buildings – only to be ordered by a government office to take them down.

    The incident comes just a week after an immigration judge retired while claiming the Trump administration was turning the Immigration Courts into a “politburo rubber stamp”, and the government’s immigration policies have been accused of potentially hastening the spread of coronavirus by scaring immigrants into dropping their health insurance.

    The National Association of Immigration Judges (NAIJ) recommended to judges that they hang warning posters – in both English and Spanish – in public areas of their courts as part of a list of measures to combat the spread of the virus.

    However, only hours after it tweeted out its official advice, it said the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR), which oversees the immigration courts, had ordered the posters to be taken down.

    “EOIR has ordered immigration court staff to remove CDC posters designed to slow spread of coronavirus,” the NAIJ tweeted. “No, this is not a parody account. NAIJ had recommended to immigration judges that they post in courthouses the English and Spanish language versions of the CDC’s ‘Stop the Spread of Germs’ and ‘Symptoms of Coronavirus Disease 2019’ posters. EOIR ordered that they be removed.”

    It then provided links to English-language versions of the posters in question.

    In an email obtained by legal news website Law & Crime, an EOIR judge wrote: “This is just a reminder that immigration judges do not have the authority to post, or ask you to post, signage for their individual courtrooms or the waiting areas.

    “Per our leadership, the CDC flyer is not authorized for posting in the immigration courts. If you see one (attached), please remove it.”

    The EOIR has been contacted for comment.

    The Immigration Court system is responsible for hearing the cases of immigrants threatened with deportation. It is not part of the judiciary, instead governed by the EOIR, which in turn is under the oversight of the Department of Justice.

    This means that unlike other courts, the Immigration Courts can be subject to direct political instruction from the executive branch, and are meant to implement the attorney general’s interpretation of the law.

    The Trump administration’s harsh immigration policies have put the courts under heavy pressure. There is currently a backlog of one million cases waiting to be heard.
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    It should be clear by now that the Trump administration's main method of combating the virus is to suppress any and all mention of it.

    It's Trump's "don't ask, don't tell, just let them quietly die" philosophy.
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    Fox Business Host Claims Coronavirus Is ‘Impeachment All Over Again’ In Bonkers Rant

    Fox Business host Trish Regan claims the coronavirus outbreak is just “another attempt to impeach” President Donald Trump.

    On Monday, Regan claimed that Democrats “blame him and only him for a virus that originated halfway around the world.” She said they were trying to “create mass hysteria to encourage a market selloff” and “stop our economy dead in its tracks.” And she said Democrats, the media and even investors were allowing their hate to “spiral out of control” and cause markets to crash.

    As she spoke, a graphic reading “CORONAVIRUS IMPEACHMENT SCAM” appeared on the screen

    Regan’s comments were at odds with those of Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host who on Monday night seemed to call out other Fox voices and even the president, saying they “have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem.”

    Regan’s monologue also created a false impression that Trump was being blamed for the virus when, in fact, criticism has focused on his bungled response to the crisis as well as his spreading of misinformation. For example, on Feb. 26, Trump said there were just 15 cases in the country and within a couple of days, that number was “going to be down to close to zero.”

    There are now more than 750 cases in the United States.

    Even conservative media has slammed Trump’s response.

    “President Trump’s bombastic style has served him well through many stages of his political career, but as the coronavirus spreads rapidly throughout the United States, it is exposing how deeply unsuited he is to deal with a genuine crisis that he can’t bluff his way through,” wrote The Washington Examiner’s executive editor Philip Klein.
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    This is "Trump Derangement Syndrome", right here, right now, on full display.
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    The United States' closest ally is in 'genuine disbelief' about how bad Trump's response to the coronavirus outbreak has been

    The UK government is in "genuine disbelief" about how badly US President Donald Trump has handled the coronavirus outbreak, and officials have reacted with "incredulity" to the president's attempts to downplay the epidemic, BuzzFeed News reported on Monday.

    The Trump administration's slow response and the president's stream of tweets about COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, have triggered eye-rolls among Prime Minister Boris Johnson's team, UK officials told BuzzFeed News.

    "There is a general level of incredulity over his comments but especially over the lack of testing," a UK official told the website.

    People in the UK government "are used to the steady stream of tweets, but the last few days have caused more than the usual eye-rolling," the official said. "There is genuine disbelief."
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    Um, what the hell did you expect??
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