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    Serial blasts in Sri Lanka on Easter: 156 killed, including 35 foreigners

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    Very unfortunate. RIP.
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    EIGHT blasts ?

    This a major attack.

    Al-Q style

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    EIGHT blasts ?

    This a major attack.

    Al-Q style
    Death toll has risen to 290.

    More on Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath. They have local chapters in major western countries and the middle-east. LeT is also active in Sri Lanka.
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    * "A foreign intelligence agency has reported that the NTJ (National Thowheeth Jama'ath) is planning to carry out suicide attacks targeting prominent churches as well as the Indian high commission in Colombo," said the alert.

    * NTJ is a radical Muslim group in Sri Lanka that came to notice last year when it was linked to the vandalization of Buddhist statues.

    * Three churches targetted:
    1. St Anthony's Church in Colombo
    2. St Sebastian's Church in the western coastal town of Negombo
    3. A church in the eastern town of Batticaloa

    * Three explosions at five-star hotels
    1. The Shangrila
    2. The Cinnamon Grand
    3. The Kingsbury

    * Only around six percent of mainly Buddhist Sri Lanka is Catholic, but the religion is seen as a unifying force because it includes people from both the Tamil and majority Sinhalese ethnic groups.

    * Out of Sri Lanka's total population of around 22 million, 70 percent are Buddhist, 12.6 percent Hindu, 9.7 percent Muslim, and 7.6 percent Christian, according to the country's 2012 census.
    Hotels
    Catholic churches
    Indian high commission
    Sri Lanka

    Put that together and come up with something coherent

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    ^ I did mention something. You missed it.

    Had the Indian High Commission been attacked, revenge for Balakote air-strike would have been complete. Fook you India and America.
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    Could still happen but there is that June FATF meet and they'd just be screwing the pooch.

    What i don't understand is why Catholics were targeted here. The other point is muslims don't have a history of resorting to terrorism in Sri Lanka even at the height of the insurgency. LTTE had the monopoly.

    Sri Lanka bombings are a dark augury | ORF | Apr 23 2019
    Of course, the question uppermost on everyone’s mind is: “Who organized these attacks”? While no organization has stepped forward to take responsibility, there is speculation that this might be the handiwork of either Tamil fringe-groups or the Islamic State (Daesh). The latter, experts aver, is the more likely perpetrator, not least since it is the only group presently with the capability, expertise and motivation to carry out complex missions such as a coordinated, high intensity strike on multiple targets. Certainly, the pattern of the attacks – the fact that high-value sites were chosen meticulously to be hit by suicide bombers, and a seeming attempt to create a religious rift by targeting Christian places of worship in a Buddhist-majority country - also hints at the involvement of the IS. Still, it is too early to speculate and only a detailed investigation will reveal the real culprits behind the attack.
    Daesh
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    This has hit hard in Australia. While the two dead Australians is a blow, the real suffering is among the many thousands of Sri Lankan Australians. Most fled the Civil War and had hoped such scenes would never return to their homeland. the Sri Lankan community has integrated quickly, so many of us from previous waves of migration work and socialise with members of that community.

    I can recall the distress of a former co-worker during the bombings related to the Civil War. She is Christian, so this will hit her and her family very hard.

    Tonight buildings around Melbourne are lit up in the colours of the Sri Lankan flag. It is little enough, but a symbol of our solidarity not only with Sri Lanka, but with those among us who hold it dear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Could still happen but there is that June FATF meet and they'd just be screwing the pooch.

    What i don't understand is why Catholics were targeted here. The other point is muslims don't have a history of resorting to terrorism in Sri Lanka even at the height of the insurgency. LTTE had the monopoly.

    Sri Lanka bombings are a dark augury | ORF | Apr 23 2019


    Daesh
    Whichever the group, ORF or any other think-tank would like to give credit to this attack, I strongly believe without outside help a coordinated attack like this is not possible. Particularly when many of the sub-continents muslims are seen as expendable assets by the Pakistan Army. SIMI/IM, Kashmiris/Khalistanis etc were such terrorist groups in India, trained & funded by the PA/ISI to attack targets inside India, giving the Pakistanis plausible deniability. Catholics were probably targeted because of the American support for India for the Balakote air-strike. This is what the PA/ISI is doing in Afghanistan, killing Afghans and sometimes Americans. ISIS=ISI^2. Mind you, Pakistanis have trained SriLankan muslims for attacks on India, and Indian assets in SriLanka. I could be entirely wrong, so I'll be following this issue closely, but knowing Pakistan and what the PA/ISI is capable of, I have full confidence on them. What riles me is killing ~ 300 innocent people and injuring 100s of others is not done, just not done, whichever the F group it is.
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    Okay, so the first hint of my suspicion that international hands are involved. International = not Sri Lankan. The bombers were Sri Lankan though. Sri Lanka identifies outfit behind blasts, says all suicide bombers Lankan nationals

    87 bomb detonators found at bus station in Colombo: Sri Lanka police. So, the idea was to target centers teeming with civilians and cause maximum casualties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Whichever the group, ORF or any other think-tank would like to give credit to this attack, I strongly believe without outside help a coordinated attack like this is not possible.
    That's why the speculation is Daesh. Returnees from Iraq & Syria have the expertise and are ruthless enough.

    For that matter the Maldives has even higher participation in Daesh as a proportion of its population indicating radicalisation is present.

    Cultural ties between Sri Lanka & Maldives are deeper than between Sri Lanka & Pakistan. So maybe a Maldivian connection ?

    Particularly when many of the sub-continents muslims are seen as expendable assets by the Pakistan Army. SIMI/IM, Kashmiris/Khalistanis etc were such terrorist groups in India, trained & funded by the PA/ISI to attack targets inside India, giving the Pakistanis plausible deniability.
    Da'esh gives the Paks plausible deniablity and is Al-Q 2.0 meaning the Paks can be 'partners' again if they turn up minimum required suspects.

    Catholics were probably targeted because of the American support for India for the Balakote air-strike. This is what the PA/ISI is doing in Afghanistan, killing Afghans and sometimes Americans.
    I don't know if its related to Balakote. But it works to divert attention away from Pakistan. The next point is why hit Sri Lanka if you want to get back at the US & India. What good does that do ?

    Sri Lanka is not Afghanistan. The Paks have very little involvement in Sri Lanka.

    ISIS=ISI^2
    Strictly speaking, ISIS = ISI x S : P

    Mind you, Pakistanis have trained SriLankan muslims for attacks on India, and Indian assets in SriLanka. I could be entirely wrong, so I'll be following this issue closely, but knowing Pakistan and what the PA/ISI is capable of, I have full confidence on them.
    Sri Lankan muslims maintain they weren't involved in terrorism even during the height of the insurgency. So who are the Paks going to train ? I'm not seeing an obvious Pak connection here just yet.

    It could be that once LTTE was routed that spaces opened up for foreign outfits to meddle in Sri Lanka. Sri Lankans & Maldivians have access to southern India so outsourcing terrorism is a possibility but it needs good connections on site. That only happens if there are grievances. The south has been terror free compared to the North which is part of the reason that Modi's national security & terrorism narrative does not exactly work in the south.

    What riles me is killing ~ 300 innocent people and injuring 100s of others is not done, just not done, whichever the F group it is.
    It's a shock, just as you thought Sri Lanka had put its violent past behind. The high casualty count means high intensity blast which means RDX and expertise. The other factor is suicide bombers. Now the LTTE were the first at this but its curious to see a muslim outfit wanting to do this in Sri Lanka. It makes no sense.

    a seeming attempt to create a religious rift by targeting Christian places of worship in a Buddhist-majority country
    I don't fully understand this sentence from the ORF article. Sinhalas aren't into terrorism either. The muslims there are not into terrorism so what religious rift can be created here ? if LTTE couldn't manage it and i rate LTTE up there for ruthlessness and effectiveness over any muslim extremist group. Daesh would be the closest competitor.

    What is becoming clear is new connections have been formed with extremists in Sri Lanka and it was under the radar until now.
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    Govt structure in Sri Lanka is weak atm. Remember back in September, the President sacked the PM and then had to take him back when the Supreme court ruled. The security establishment reports to the President only. PM knew nothing. They were prior warnings, repeatedly from foreign agencies but they went unheeded.

    One of the suicide bombers identified owns a factory. Nine of his employees have been picked up for questioning. The same individual had a run in with the cops several months earlier for defacing buddhist statues.

    ISIS sites are celebrating this attack. Some even called it payback for Christchurch.

    Some revenge attacks against muslims occurred already. The idea is to get others to attack muslims and in this way drive up recruitment for the outfit.

    There is a clear attempt to disrupt inter faith harmony here.

    Looking more and more like an IS attack.

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