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    Mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand

    Mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand

    This is really bad. 49 dead, 20 injured. Prayers for the dead.
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    Last edited by Oracle; 15 Mar 19, at 15:41.
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    What sick mind can kill innocents?
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    49 dead, another 48 wounded. Shot in the back when praying.

    For a country of just 4 million, i imagine these numbers must come as a huge shock for Kiwis.

    Times those victims by a factor of five(?) to scale up for an Indian context and its quite scary.
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    If people are after some scale for this, the figures are awful.

    An Australian equivalent would be around 250 dead in a single day. That hasn't happened since WW2.

    For a US equivalent this would be 3400 dead. September 11 was just shy of 3000.

    If this was in India the death toll would be 13,500. I don't know if there is an equivalent event in Indian history.

    We are getting 24/7 coverage here and it is heatbreaking. All the more so because one of those involved is an Australian citizen. New Zealand an Australia are siblings - closer in most respects than Canada & the US. They are our friends and neighbours, quite literally - few Australians would pass through life without living, working or socialising with our kiwi brothers and sisters. When our PM spoke yesterday the emotion in his face was clear. They are us.

    Too sad to talk more about this now. I'm just hoping the death toll climbs no further.


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    Disgusted, hurt and disappointed! I can't begin to comprehend the level of mental gymnastics required to make sense of how any person with any sense of morality can stoop to this. The fuck wanted undeserved attention for a cooked up cause by justifying his heinous actions through a made up threat. The live stream, the meme usage, and the "manifesto" - all attention seeking... What kind of person broadcasts live a murder spree to a cheering audience? Every person watching that live stream who failed to notify the police needs to be made an example of. Also, not sure how he, a foreign national, was able to acquire the weaponry needed for the attack. Needs to be put in solitary for life...

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    This isn't racist though, its directed at muslims as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
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    This isn't racist though, its directed at muslims as a whole.
    Muslim terrorists get their indoctrination from fake (maybe) Koran and perverted mullahs, where do guys such as this one get their inspiration from? Any literature available? A white vs non-white thing? If news are to be believed, the Aussie dude is a white supremacist, which in turn would mean he's against all other races including jews, not a white vs brown thing then. Against a race means, racist, isn't it, some sick racial superiority thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Muslim terrorists get their indoctrination from fake (maybe) Koran and perverted mullahs, where do guys such as this one get their inspiration from? Any literature available? A white vs non-white thing? If news are to be believed, the Aussie dude is a white supremacist, which in turn would mean he's against all other races including jews, not a white vs brown thing then. Against a race means, racist, isn't it, some sick racial superiority thing.
    It's not white vs non-white. I don't even know if race applies here but definitely its anti-muslim everything. So cultural ? Muslims are taking over white/native space. A white muslim (convert) would not be spared possibly hated more & considered a traitor. Almost sectarian like but this guy isn't purporting to defend Christians. Kiwi PM's got it right.

    Anders Brevik didn't even kill muslims he killed some Norwegian kids (all white) who he considered traitors for condoning multiculturalism. Supporters of policy that allow muslims into the country. That guy in his teens moved with some Pak gangs in Norway and just developed a complete hatred for muslims as a result. Rabidly anti-left who he blamed for enacting policies that allow muslims into the country.

    This guys identifies with Brevik who also wrote some 70pg manifesto. Brevik talked about Lebanon and how muslims turned on the Christians, to grab their land. Course that there was a civil war going on at the time isn't appreciated.

    There was a shooting at a gurudwara in the states some years back, i'm more inclined to see that attack as rascist.

    Btw, the Paks would dearly love to ignite a conflict like this in India. Get a hindu to do what this guy did. Not working yet regardless of the numerous attacks & bombings.
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    'Many more would have died': Hero mosque worker grabs NZ attacker's gun | Sky | Mar 15 2019

    Witnesses described how a young mosque worker grabbed the attacker's gun and forced him to flee the scene.
    Brave. Reminds me of that guy who disarmed a shooter with an AR-15 in the states

    So two mosques were targeted. Thanks to this guy the death count at the second mosque was lower than intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    It's not white vs non-white. I don't even know if race applies here but definitely its anti-muslim everything. So cultural ? Muslims are taking over white/native space. A white muslim (convert) would not be spared possibly hated more & considered a traitor. Almost sectarian like but this guy isn't purporting to defend Christians. Kiwi PM's got it right.

    Anders Brevik didn't even kill muslims he killed some Norwegian kids (all white) who he considered traitors for condoning multiculturalism. Supporters of policy that allow muslims into the country. That guy in his teens moved with some Pak gangs in Norway and just developed a complete hatred for muslims as a result. Rabidly anti-left who he blamed for enacting policies that allow muslims into the country.

    This guys identifies with Brevik who also wrote some 70pg manifesto. Brevik talked about Lebanon and how muslims turned on the Christians, to grab their land. Course that there was a civil war going on at the time isn't appreciated.

    There was a shooting at a gurudwara in the states some years back, i'm more inclined to see that attack as rascist.
    So, it's immigration, plus the voices that Muslims don't assimilate well into western societies. Creepy stuff. But where do this thinking come from? Some brainwashing is needed to execute heinous crime like this. Is there any KKK type manual/literature that these guys follow?

    Btw, the Paks would dearly love to ignite a conflict like this in India. Get a hindu to do what this guy did. Not working yet regardless of the numerous attacks & bombings.
    I have had the same thinking along these lines for many years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    So, it's immigration, plus the voices that Muslims don't assimilate well into western societies. Creepy stuff. But where do this thinking come from? Some brainwashing is needed to execute heinous crime like this. Is there any KKK type manual/literature that these guys follow?
    Where are the swastikas ? More political

    Who Are the People Whose Names New Zealand Mosque Shooter Scrawled on His Gun? | Sputnik | Mar 15 2019

    The gunman, who identified himself as an Australian called Brenton Tarrant, published a lengthy manifesto prior to the shooting, in which he laid out his views. He described himself as a fascist and claimed that mass immigration results in "non-Europeans" with higher fertility rates "replacing" white people with lower birth rates.

    He called this situation an "invasion" and accused European politicians, singling out Angela Merkel, of "racially cleansing" Europe. His attacks on the mosques drew condemnation from New Zealand officials, with the prime minister describing them as "an extraordinary and unprecedented act of violence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    So, it's immigration, plus the voices that Muslims don't assimilate well into western societies. Creepy stuff. But where do this thinking come from? Some brainwashing is needed to execute heinous crime like this. Is there any KKK type manual/literature that these guys follow?
    Where are the swastikas ? More political. Inspiration can be from any right winger who has an issue with migration or even Islam. Go to the /pol/ section of 8chan. Apparently that's where this guy hung out.

    Who Are the People Whose Names New Zealand Mosque Shooter Scrawled on His Gun? | Sputnik | Mar 15 2019


    The gunman, who identified himself as an Australian called Brenton Tarrant, published a lengthy manifesto prior to the shooting, in which he laid out his views. He described himself as a fascist and claimed that mass immigration results in "non-Europeans" with higher fertility rates "replacing" white people with lower birth rates.

    He called this situation an "invasion" and accused European politicians, singling out Angela Merkel, of "racially cleansing" Europe. His attacks on the mosques drew condemnation from New Zealand officials, with the prime minister describing them as "an extraordinary and unprecedented act of violence."
    No tribute to Hitler, instead he bashes Merkel. Wait..what ? this guy's an Aussie so what did Merkel do to him ??

    Long list of events and names. I can't find a single anti-jew thing in there at all. The surprising bit is how they span space & time.

    Social media era makes everything so global.
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