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    Five Eyes Intelligence Sharing Has Failed to Combat White Nationalist Terrorism | CFR | Mar 19 2019

    Yet while intelligence officials have noted that Five Eyes partners have created a massive intelligence sharing network regarding other types of transnational terrorism, they also have noted that this intelligence sharing has not generally extended to domestic terrorists and terrorist groups, even white nationalist ones. Indeed, intelligence officials told the Washington Post that while Five Eyes countries might tell a partner state about a potentially imminent terrorist attack by a domestic extremist in that other country, they do not routinely share information about domestic terror threats in partner states. Now, that must change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    The rise of the modern nation state was more to do with the decline in legitimacy of European monarchies and empires. The French Revolution and the spread of its ideals during the Napoleonic Wars accelerated that process. As power began to shift from a tiny handful of hereditary or 'ordained' national & local leaders to a wider constituency national identities based on artificially 'unified' concepts of national character became the new organising principle. Whether those identities were imposed from above on large nations or bubbled up from below to create smaller ones they ultimately rode roughshod over the internal differences every nation possessed.
    This idea of nation state is increasingly being challenged around the world

    Civilizationism vs the Nation State

    Increasingly there is a tacit meeting of the minds among world leaders as well as conservative and far-right politicians and activists that frames the rivalry: the rise of civilisationalism and the civilizational state that seeks its legitimacy in a distinct civilization rather than the nation state’s concept of territorial integrity, language and citizenry.
    The trend towards civilisationalism benefits from the fact that 21st century autocracy and authoritarianism vests survival not only in repression of dissent and denial of freedom of expression but also maintaining at least some of the trappings of pluralism that can include representational bodies with no or severely limited powers, toothless opposition groups, government-controlled non-governmental organizations, and degrees of accountability.

    It creates the basis for an unspoken consensus on the values that would underwrite a new world order on which men like Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Victor Orban, Mohammed bin Salman, Narendra Modi and Donald Trump find a degree of common ground. If anything, it is this tacit understanding that in the shaping of a new world order constitutes the greatest threat to liberal values such as human and minority rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    The rise of the modern nation state was more to do with the decline in legitimacy of European monarchies and empires. The French Revolution and the spread of its ideals during the Napoleonic Wars accelerated that process. As power began to shift from a tiny handful of hereditary or 'ordained' national & local leaders to a wider constituency national identities based on artificially 'unified' concepts of national character became the new organising principle. Whether those identities were imposed from above on large nations or bubbled up from below to create smaller ones they ultimately rode roughshod over the internal differences every nation possessed.
    This idea of nation state is increasingly being challenged around the world

    Civilizationism vs the Nation State

    Increasingly there is a tacit meeting of the minds among world leaders as well as conservative and far-right politicians and activists that frames the rivalry: the rise of civilisationalism and the civilizational state that seeks its legitimacy in a distinct civilization rather than the nation state’s concept of territorial integrity, language and citizenry.
    The trend towards civilisationalism benefits from the fact that 21st century autocracy and authoritarianism vests survival not only in repression of dissent and denial of freedom of expression but also maintaining at least some of the trappings of pluralism that can include representational bodies with no or severely limited powers, toothless opposition groups, government-controlled non-governmental organizations, and degrees of accountability.

    It creates the basis for an unspoken consensus on the values that would underwrite a new world order on which men like Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Victor Orban, Mohammed bin Salman, Narendra Modi and Donald Trump find a degree of common ground. If anything, it is this tacit understanding that in the shaping of a new world order constitutes the greatest threat to liberal values such as human and minority rights

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