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    Reade demands that the Senate records of Joe Biden be released (reportedly stored at the University of Delaware).
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    "Released" ?

    Apparently the Congressional Record isn't adequate to inform as to which way he voted on what.

    By the way, where oh where are The Trumpet's tax returns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOR View Post
    "Released" ?

    Apparently the Congressional Record isn't adequate to inform as to which way he voted on what.

    By the way, where oh where are The Trumpet's tax returns?
    Appreciate the hypocrisy while you can...

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    Trump Erupts At Campaign Team As His Poll Numbers Slide

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump erupted at his top political advisers last week when they presented him with worrisome polling data that showed his support eroding in a series of battleground states as his response to the coronavirus comes under criticism.

    As the virus takes its deadly toll and much of the nation's economy remains shuttered, new surveys by the Republican National Committee and Trump's campaign pointed to a harrowing picture for the president as he faces reelection.

    While Trump saw some of the best approval ratings of his presidency during the early weeks of the crisis, aides highlighted the growing political cost of the crisis and the unforced errors by Trump in his freewheeling press briefings.

    Trump reacted with defiance, incredulous that he could be losing to someone he viewed as a weak candidate.

    “I am not f—-ing losing to Joe Biden,”
    he repeated in a series of heated conference calls with his top campaign officials, according to five people with knowledge of the conversations. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about private discussions.

    The message to the president was sobering: Trump was trailing the former Democratic vice president in many key battleground states, he was told, and would have lost the Electoral College if the election had been held earlier this month.

    On the line from the White House, Trump snapped at the state of his polling during a series of calls with campaign manager Brad Parscale, who called in from Florida; RNC chair Ronna McDaniel, on the line from her home in Michigan; senior adviser Jared Kushner; and other aides.

    Echoing a number of White House aides and outside advisers, the political team urged Trump to curtail his daily coronavirus briefings, arguing that the combative sessions were costing him in the polls, particularly among seniors. Trump initially pushed back, pointing to high television ratings. But, at least temporarily, he agreed to scale back the briefings after drawing sharp criticism for raising the idea that Americans might get virus protection by injecting disinfectants.

    Trump aides encouraged the president to stay out of medical issues and direct his focus toward more familiar and politically important ground: the economy.

    Even as Trump preaches optimism, the president has expressed frustration and even powerlessness as the dire economic statistics pile up. It's been a whiplash-inducing moment for the president, who just two months ago planned to run for reelection on the strength of an economy that was experiencing unprecedented employment levels. Now, as the records mount in the opposite direction, Trump is feeling the pressure.

    “We built the greatest economy in the world,” Trump has said publicly. “I’ll do it a second time.”

    Trump's political team warned that the president's path to reelection depends on how quickly he can bring about a recovery.

    “I think you’ll see by June a lot of the country should be back to normal, and the hope is that by July the country’s really rocking again," Kushner told “Fox & Friends” on Wednesday morning. But other aides, business leaders and economists predict a far longer road toward recovery.

    Representatives for the RNC and the Trump campaign did not comment on the polling or last week's phone calls.

    According to people familiar with the incident, Trump vented much of his frustration at Parscale, who served as the bearer of bad news.

    Trump has long distrusted negative poll numbers — telling aides for years that his gut was right about the 2016 race, when he insisted that he was ahead in the Midwest and Florida. At the same time, Parscale and other Trump aides are talking up the sophistication of their data and voter outreach capabilities this time.

    The president and some aides have had simmering frustrations with Parscale for a while, believing the campaign manager — a close Kushner ally — has enriched himself from his association with Trump and sought personal publicity. Trump had previously been angered when Parscale was the subject of magazine profiles. This latest episode flared before the campaign manager was featured in a New York Times Magazine profile this week.

    Aides have grown particularly worried about Michigan — which some advisers have all but written off -- as well as Florida, Wisconsin and Arizona.

    Trump announced Wednesday that he will visit Arizona next week — his first trip outside Washington in a month — as he looks to declare that much of the nation is ready to begin reopening after the virus.

    The president has mocked Biden, his presumptive general election rival, for being "stuck in his basement" in his Delaware home during the pandemic.

    Trump said Wednesday that he hopes to soon visit Ohio, a battleground state that Trump carried handily in 2016 but that aides see as growing slightly competitive in recent weeks.

    Aides acknowledged that the president's signature rallies would not be returning anytime soon. Some have privately offered doubts that he would be able to hold any in his familiar format of jam-packed arenas before Election Day, Nov. 3.

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    I occasionally wonder what kind of person would work for Donald Trump.

    I can only assume they're either dyed-in-the-wool masochists, or they're so money/power hungry that they'll willingly sacrifice any sense of self-esteem, not to mention whatever morality they have left, as long it gets them a little further up the ladder.
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    When one of the left gets out of line. Can one say firing squad?
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    More evidence of Joe’s 1993 escapades, circa 1996.

    https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/p...242527331.html

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    Midwesterners were already doubting Trump. Covid could seal his political fate

    Drake Custer is a union man who, along with about 30 of his buddies, had an Old English “K” tattooed on their chests about 15 years ago. It stands for “Keokuk”, a deflated Mississippi River manufacturing town of 10,000 tucked into the south-east corner of Iowa that Washington and Des Moines forgot.

    “We know who we are,” said Custer.

    They make syrup from corn starch, steel wheels and rubber seals at an average wage of $18 per hour. People keep leaving in search of something better – in 1960, the town was 60% bigger. It’s the story of the midwest, decline and depopulation, frustration and anxiety.

    “A lot of voters wanted to believe Trump – that out there in Washington it’s all BS, and that a savvy businessman could straighten it out,” Custer said.

    It’s hard for many to admit that it didn’t work out. A tragic comedy of lawlessness mixed with buffoonery nears its epilogue.


    About 10 of those 30 branded Keokuk men voted for Donald Trump. This year, Custer figures maybe five of them will.

    “The vibe is: a lot of people figured out that the boss isn’t worried about them. My veteran friends, they don’t like what’s going on. They’re looking for leadership in government and the workplace. Really, everybody is.”

    Folks from Milwaukee to Muskegon were having their misgivings before the pandemic shut us down in March. Trade wars with China, Mexico, Canada and Europe knocked the wind out of steel wheels and soybean prices. Workers at John Deere, the huge tractor builder, were getting pink slips in Davenport. Ethanol plants were idled. Farmers in north-west Iowa’s Sioux county, where Trump took 90% of the vote, said last fall they would not vote for him again. The 23 proclaimed they were “fed up” after Trump’s Environmental Protection Agency allowed 31 petroleum refineries to shun ethanol blending requirements. Ethanol comes from corn. Corn is a religious totem in these parts.

    Trump’s approval ratings sank underwater in key midwestern swing states he won: Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa. Any number of polls showed Trump and Joe Biden in a dead heat in about a dozen purple states, or with Biden in a comfortable lead. Bluster and blunder were coming home to roost.

    Then the pandemic that Trump ignored hit and the bottom dropped out.

    Corn prices dived 19% since January. Meatpacking plants are exploding with the coronavirus – 60% of the pork plant workers in Perry, Iowa, are infected. The sheriff for Waterloo, Iowa, said he wanted to stomp a boot on Tyson’s plant. The mayor of Sioux Falls argued with the South Dakota governor to shut down a Smithfield pork facility overrun with the virus. About 65% of people polled think folks should stay home and not dine in at the restaurant buffet. Although the Iowa governor allowed churches to reopen, they aren’t taking her up on the offer with Sunday services. They would just as soon wait until we can get some tests done around here. Republican leaders are not in tune with voters.

    The Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat on Biden’s VP shortlist, held forth ably against armed men in the capital lobby and remains far more popular than Trump. In Wisconsin, Democrats were outraged when Republicans forced a primary election involving a key state supreme court race. Voters stood up for democracy, in line for hours braving Covid-19 infection to cast their vote. The Democratic-backed court candidate won. Wisconsin unseated the Republican governor, Scott Walker, in 2018 and elected a gay woman to the US Senate, Democrat Tammy Baldwin, before that. It is the land of La Follette, after all.

    Trump hopes to flip Minnesota in November. He can forget about the land of Hubert H Humphrey if he can’t swing Wisconsin. Iowa is on the pink side of purple but clearly is in play if the Democrats don’t just fly over again as Clinton did. The Iowa Republican senator Joni Ernst has an approval rating near 37% for joining at the cranium with Trump while he routed ag markets. The Democrats doubtless could screw this up, but …

    A reckoning is due for incompetence and neglect. Farmers are disconsolate. Every dairy worker suicide resonates. Hogs are backed up when one of the huge, consolidated slaughterhouses goes down for lack of healthy help. Producers are left to shoot them and bury them. People in nice SUVs line up for free food. It makes everyone nauseous. Everyday people can’t understand why NBA players can get tested but packinghouse workers ordered to keep the pork loins rolling can’t. Rural communities prone to vote Republican live under a cloud of fear that virus from immigrant workers will spread to them – that the health of your neighbor is in fact your health. Immigrants become human, and their treatment is realized as shameful. We’re waking up, all right. When 30 million people can’t get through to the unemployment system, and half of them lose their health insurance by fall, incumbents should cover their flanks.

    Polls show that in the upper midwest, blue urban voters are more motivated to vote than rural red voters by fair margins. Armed people of color escorted an African American legislator into the Michigan capitol last week in response to the white armed men. Talk about stuff getting real. Do you think every African American in Flint is not motivated?

    “The iron is hot,” Custer said. “This is the time to make permanent change.”

    Even while sitting in his basement unheard, Biden is winning the midwest for all Trump’s blather. The genius may think we are suckers, but in Iowa we don’t ruin good corn liquor with Clorox. The gig is up.

    Art Cullen is editor of the Storm Lake Times in north-west Iowa, where he won the Pulitzer prize for editorial writing. He is a Guardian US columnist and author of the book: Storm Lake: Change, Resilience, and Hope in America’s Heartland
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    I get the feeling that being "the anti-lefty" isn't a sufficient qualification for the President of the United States.

    If there is any silver lining to this horrific pandemic, it'll be that it's exposed Trump for what he's always -obviously- been: A congenitally rich failure that cares about nothing - nothing - but himself and his ego.
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    There is so much discontent and unease running through the Midwest right now that this November election could be a stunner. A better than 50/50 chance that everything goes to the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Drake Custer is a union man who, along with about 30 of his buddies, had an Old English “K” tattooed on their chests about 15 years ago. It stands for “Keokuk”, a deflated Mississippi River manufacturing town of 10,000 tucked into the south-east corner of Iowa that Washington and Des Moines forgot.

    “We know who we are,” said Custer.

    They make syrup from corn starch, steel wheels and rubber seals at an average wage of $18 per hour. People keep leaving in search of something better – in 1960, the town was 60% bigger. It’s the story of the midwest, decline and depopulation, frustration and anxiety.
    I was born in a town that has faced similar economic circumstances in recent decades - the population has gone from 11,000 when I was born, to 8,000 today. All outlying towns have lost population as well, some up to half.

    Iron mining was the backbone of the economy, with an even larger number of people employees in supporting industries (e.g. machine shops, metal fabrication, mechanics, etc).

    In presidential elections, the congressional district the town is in went majority DFL (Democrat) for 80 years straight, before going Republican in 2016. Like a lot of industrial regions, the district voted Republican for the first time in living memory.

    The economic situation there didn't improve much under Obama, beforehand, it had gone from bad to worse between the mid-70s and 00s, to very bad during the recession, then back to the same general level of bad it had been in prior to 2008.

    The situation now is same shit, different bowl. They're not any better off under Trump either, despite his promises of a total renaissance that would completely revitalize industrial regions that have fallen on hard times, bring them back to full employment with lucrative wages last seen in the 60s and early 70s, bring every manufacturing job back, etc.

    Like I said, things didn't get better off under Obama, but at least Obama didn't bullshit them about some pie in the sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    The situation now is same shit, different bowl. They're not any better off under Trump either, despite his promises of a total renaissance that would completely revitalize industrial regions that have fallen on hard times, bring them back to full employment with lucrative wages last seen in the 60s and early 70s, bring every manufacturing job back, etc.
    That's the most depressing part about Trump: That people were so taken in by such an obvious con man.

    The 2016 popular vote is only a partial salve to that kind of brutal truth about people.
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    Jared Kushner says he can't for sure 'commit one way or the other' to the November 2020 election due to COVID-19 — 'but right now that's the plan'

    The US presidential election is on November 3, but when asked if it would still be held then, Jared Kushner, the US president's son-in-law and White House senior advisor, was not fully committal.

    As Business Insider has noted, it is not possible for the White House to unilaterally postpone an election — although Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has worried it is something that President Donald Trump might well try.

    Trump could, however, publicly undermine the legitimacy of the vote, as he has done with baseless claims that casting ballots by mail will enable widespread fraud.

    Asked Tuesday if he could see pushing back the vote, Kushner told TIME that November was "too far in the future to tell."

    "It's not my decision to make, so I'm not sure I can commit one way or the other," he said. "But right now that's the plan."

    Kushner had been asked if another surge in coronavirus infections could delay the election.

    "Hopefully by the time we get to September, October, November, we've done enough work with testing and with all the different things we're trying to do to prevent a future outbreak of the magnitude that would make us shut down again," he said. "I really believe that once America opens up, it'll be very hard for America to lock down again."

    In a statement issued later in the day to NBC News, Kushner said: "I have not been involved in, nor am I aware of any discussions about trying to change the date of the presidential election."

    At least 81,600 people have died in the US due to COVID-19, with an additional 1,547 deaths reported on Tuesday, according to The Washington Post. Reported deaths peaked April 21, when there were 2,845 fatalities — compared to 2,416 deaths on May 5 — but public health experts have warned that the US is not conducting enough tests to safely restart the economy, raising the threat of a fierce resurgence.
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    Huh! Who knew that Jared Kushner had a say in whether or not the United States holds its Presidential Election.

    "It's not my decision to make, so I'm not sure I can commit one way or the other," he said. "But right now that's the plan."

    There's no need for him to commit to anything. He should've ended his statement at the bolded part, full stop.
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    Biden campaign aid, acting badly.
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    Donald Trump Jr. Smears Biden With Baseless Instagram Post: "Just Joking Around"

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joe Biden was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

    Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

    When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.


    Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families.

    Biden has been accused by some adult women of inappropriate behavior but he has never faced any suggestion of misconduct with a child. Trump himself faces roughly two dozen accusations of sexual misconduct, and in the “Access Hollywood” tape from 2005 bragged about sexually assaulting women and grabbing them by their private parts.

    Trump Jr.’s inflammatory and baseless claim, which he shared with his 2.8 million Instagram followers, comes as his father and the reelection campaign have sought to weaken Biden and attack other perceived enemies with an onslaught of allegations and insinuations rarely seen in modern elections.

    The 73-year-old president has, for example, purchased a series of Facebook ads openly accusing his 77-year-old Democratic rival of being “old and out of it,” as one of them puts it. And the president himself has said much the same, stating Thursday that Biden “doesn’t know he’s alive.”

    Trump’s scorched earth campaign strategy comes as little surprise — he has broken an array of norms during his three years in office. But his offensive has taken on a new urgency as the country reels from the health and economic devastation wrought by the coronavirus, and Biden enjoys a modest lead in the battleground states that will decide the election.

    A spokesman for the president’s campaign did not respond to an email message asking if they condone the younger Trump’s message.

    Andrew Bates, a spokesman for Biden, said: “No repulsive, manipulative tactic will change the subject from how almost 90,000 Americans have paid for Donald Trump’s coronavirus negligence with their lives and how the booming economy he inherited from the Obama-Biden administration is now suffering from Depression-level job losses.”

    Trump Jr., 42, is affiliated with his family’s real estate business. But he spends much of his time on his father’s political efforts and is ubiquitous on social media, where he often posts barbed memes about Democrats that can go beyond even the president’s accusations and insinuations. The eldest Trump son is also more of a dedicated conservative than his father and often gives voice to some of the more extreme elements of the right.

    Further, Trump Jr. is something of an early warning system for Republican lines of attack. For months, he has been posting material questioning Biden’s mental acuity and accusing him of being “creepy,” as he wrote again Saturday.

    In an interview with Axios earlier this year, Trump Jr. acknowledged his father sometimes calls him to tell him he’s being “too aggressive” in his attacks.

    But the younger Trump said with a smile that he tells his father he “learned it by watching you” and claimed the president often is more jealous than irritated. “He just wanted the material. He was mad I beat him to the punch.”
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    Anytime Trump and his followers call Joe a pedophile and bring up accusers, all the Democrats have to do is post this picture:


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