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    The media has recently picked up on the 'Italian connection', which has long been known of in some circles but rarely spoken of. So some may know about Matteo Salvini, the current deputy PM of Italy and leader of the Lega Nord and his right wing anti immigration, anti 'globalist', anti EU views. Fine, he is welcome to his views. Some of his migration policies I might even support were I an Italian if he were not a traitor.

    So it turned out that they were in cahoots with Muscovite dirty money and aligned with the Muscovite purpose to undermine European unity all along - well some knew that long before but it was hardly mentioned. (It is too long to put here but worth reading if you wish to understand the war we engaged in).

    Basically they are talking corruption of around $65m syphoned from a Muscovite oil company to Eni, an Italian state owned company that Salvini, who also serves as interior minister has supervision of. In other word Moscow funding them via the back door to stir up trouble.

    Seems they may have bought or been in cahoots far deeper than this though. First came the arrest of Vitaliy Markiv who was merely visiting Italy in 2017 on charges of murder of an Italian journalist who was inside occupied Slovyansk in 2014 and was hit by mortar fire. Last week Markiv was sentenced to 24yrs in Italy not withstanding that he was a soldier at the time, nor in command or attached even to the particular unit that fired the mortar but because he allegedly spoke to another Italian journalist later.

    Next the truth becomes clearer:

    "Anti-terrorism police in northern Italy have seized an air-to-air missile and other sophisticated weapons during raids on far-right extremist groups.

    Three people were arrested, two of them near Forli airport. Neo-Nazi propaganda was also seized.

    The raids were part of an investigation into Italian far-right involvement in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, the Turin police said.

    The missile originated from the Qatari armed forces, the police said.
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    Image caption The missile is reported to be in good condition for combat use

    The Turin special police force, called Digos, led the operations, assisted by police in Milan, Varese, Forli and Novara.

    Italian media named those arrested as Fabio Del Bergiolo, 50, an Italian ex-customs officer and far-right Forza Nuova party activist; Alessandro Monti, 42, a Swiss national; and Fabio Bernardi, 51, also Italian.

    Initially, on 15 July, the police said the arrests were part of an investigation, started about a year ago, into far-right groups "who have fought in Ukraine's Donbass region against the separatists".

    But the latest police statement did not mention groups fighting the pro-Russian separatists, referring only to an investigation into Italian extremists who had "taken part in the armed conflict in Ukraine's Donbass region". The police did not make it clear which side the Italians were on in this case.

    The missile appears to be a French-made Matra Super 530 F.

    "During the operation, an air-to-air missile in perfect working order and used by the Qatari army was seized," police said in a statement.

    Separately, a court in Genoa jailed three men on 3 July who were found guilty of fighting alongside the Russian-backed separatists, who control a large swathe of Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
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    Image caption A big cache of guns and ammunition was seized
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    Image caption Turin police displayed this haul of Nazi memorabilia and weapons

    In the Genoa case, two men - Italian Antonio Cataldo and Albanian-born Olsi Krutani - got terms of two years and eight months. The third, Moldovan citizen Vladimir Vrbitchii, got one year and four months.

    Update 16th July 2019: This story was amended after Italian police dropped a reference to the Italian extremists having fought against the Donbass separatists.

    Really they not were not helping Muscovite fascists.... so they were just sending a whole cache of arms and Nazi insignia to 'friends' in Muscovite occupied Donbass.

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    But remember Ukraine has a 'fascist coup' in 2014, I am and my Brother are allegedly 'fascists' for fighting for the country where our ancestral home now comprises in defence of liberty and the aggressor is 'peaceful', 'democratic' and 'just' (right troung?).
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    But remember Ukraine has a 'fascist coup' in 2014, I am and my Brother are allegedly 'fascists' for fighting for the country where our ancestral home now comprises in defence of liberty and the aggressor is 'peaceful', 'democratic' and 'just' (right troung?)
    Sigh. Missed the scent of aquvelva from the back of my hand.

    Your brother is like the Drumpf Russian hooker seks tape you claimed to have seen and your claimed ties to polish Intel services and whatnot, not real )))

    Giant larp job.

    To your point, the brigade your made-up brother pretended to fight in is a facist brigade. Plenty of units in the Ukrainian national guard weren't fascist, but you used them in your story to get that rub. The fact that the pro Russian units try to swagger Jack nazis also doesnt change that point.
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    Really? Legia Nord are in a corruption scheme with a Muscovite oil company and their friends are sending missiles and Nazi paraphernalia to Muscovite occupied Donbass but this is about my Brother - who was alive two days ago when I spoke to him. Who are the fascists? Who is corrupt? All these things you used accuse me even - was not I a 'fascist' at some point because my Brother served with Azov? How corrupt Ukraine was... but oh dear! Here are your favourite corrupt neo Nazi's in Italy and occupied Donbass caught. But my Brother's service 5yrs ago is your problem? Not your principles that denounced him for without even knowing his reasons and - by association almost - accused me of having too. Your concern for my Frater is touching but seems more concerning to you than your former principles.

    Come here to visit; I promise I will not harm you and will give my life if need be to save yours. Just show you a few days as I see it. Visit the front for a few days. Have a vatra (bonfire party), get drunk... we only live once and it would be an experience. I could introduce you to my Brother even! I mean it. You are welcome and doubtless we may disagree but you would be my guest.

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