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Originally posted by jlvfr View PostRegarding this, an idea just hit me: would the F-15EX be a good choice for Canada?
I believe that the purchase price of the F-15EX is higher than the Super Hornet, Gripen, and F-35, and maintenance cost is likely to be higher than the Super Hornet and Gripen.
Versus the Gripen or Super Hornet, the F-15EX provides an increase in operational capability, but the increase is likely considered overkill for the missions the RCAF typically conducts, and therefore not worth the extra cost. The comparison against the F-35 is more nuanced, as they both have their strengths and weaknesses, and pilot survivability favours the F-35.
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Originally posted by Albany Rifles View PostAnd how many aircraft does the RCAF need to operate? And with global warming a known factor what aircraft allows them them best to patrol and defend the Arctic has to be a consideration.
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I was just thinking of putting up more choices to the list. With almost every western fighter having been considered/discarded/reconsidered. seemed like a good idea. As for cost, while the F-15EX seems to be be more expensive to buy as compared to the F35, it looks like it will be a lot cheaper to maintain.
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Originally posted by jlvfr View PostI was just thinking of putting up more choices to the list. With almost every western fighter having been considered/discarded/reconsidered. seemed like a good idea. As for cost, while the F-15EX seems to be be more expensive to buy as compared to the F35, it looks like it will be a lot cheaper to maintain.
The USAF expects $29,000 per flight hour in the F-15EX, the F-35 was $44,000 per flight hour in 2018, down to $33,600 in 2020. I think it's reasonable to suspect that with fleet numbers and a single engine, the F-35 will match the F-15EX projections.
After reviewing ALL the options, the RCAF has narrowed it down to:
-Gripen: Cheapest alternative that can achieve all the mission requirements.
-F-35: Safest aircraft (crashes per flight hour), increased pilot survivability and mission capability (stealth), best long tern sustainment (produced in the largest numbers, longest future production, operated by the most number of allies).
-F/A-18E/F: Lowest transition cost from the current CF-18 fleet.
Don't get me wrong, would I choose the F-15EX over any of the above .. maybe. But the contestants have been whittled down to three, and each offers a unique advantage that the F-15 does not.
If I had my way, we'd buy:
80 EF-2000 Eurofighters (four air superiority squadrons)
78 F-15EX Super Eagles (two interdiction/strike squadrons, and two maritime strike/reconnaissance squadrons)
78 F-35A Lightning IIs (two SEAD/DEAD squadrons, and two penetrating strike squadrons)
84 F/A-18F/G Super Hornets (two close air support squadrons, and two Growler electronic attack squadrons)
Probably a good thing I'm not in charge
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Originally posted by JA Boomer View Post
80 EF-2000 Eurofighters (four air superiority squadrons)
78 F-15EX Super Eagles (two interdiction/strike squadrons, and two maritime strike/reconnaissance squadrons)
78 F-35A Lightning IIs (two SEAD/DEAD squadrons, and two penetrating strike squadrons)
84 F/A-18F/G Super Hornets (two close air support squadrons, and two Growler electronic attack squadrons)
Probably a good thing I'm not in charge
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Originally posted by JA Boomer View Post
Don't worry, I can't imagine that Boeing and the government didn't discuss the potential of the F-15 for Canada. Don't forget that before the F-15EX, there was the F-15K/SG type models with newer cockpits, and then the F-15SA/QA type models with the fly-by-wire and additional hardpoints. So it's not like the USAF procurement of the F-15EX completely changed the landscape.
The USAF expects $29,000 per flight hour in the F-15EX, the F-35 was $44,000 per flight hour in 2018, down to $33,600 in 2020. I think it's reasonable to suspect that with fleet numbers and a single engine, the F-35 will match the F-15EX projections.
After reviewing ALL the options, the RCAF has narrowed it down to:
-Gripen: Cheapest alternative that can achieve all the mission requirements.
-F-35: Safest aircraft (crashes per flight hour), increased pilot survivability and mission capability (stealth), best long tern sustainment (produced in the largest numbers, longest future production, operated by the most number of allies).
-F/A-18E/F: Lowest transition cost from the current CF-18 fleet.
Don't get me wrong, would I choose the F-15EX over any of the above .. maybe. But the contestants have been whittled down to three, and each offers a unique advantage that the F-15 does not.
If I had my way, we'd buy:
80 EF-2000 Eurofighters (four air superiority squadrons)
78 F-15EX Super Eagles (two interdiction/strike squadrons, and two maritime strike/reconnaissance squadrons)
78 F-35A Lightning IIs (two SEAD/DEAD squadrons, and two penetrating strike squadrons)
84 F/A-18F/G Super Hornets (two close air support squadrons, and two Growler electronic attack squadrons)
Probably a good thing I'm not in charge
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