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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Is it going to be a NO though ? that isn't clear either
    That depends on whether the mistress can satisfy her client.

    Unbelievable. Just crazy.
    It needs a Yamraj for these kind of roles.

    Well, it seems black list isn't as distant a possibility now.
    Can't say.
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    Army Major martyred, another officer and 2 jawans injured in Kashmir encounter

    RIP.
    This is the daily shit India has to go through for the Pakistan Army sponsoring terrorism in India.
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    Army convoy attacked with IED in J&K's Pulwama

    And they beg for talks? When the time comes, every pound of blood will be extracted with interest. Fcuking terrorists.

    Army patrol vehicle targeted with IED blast in Pulwama, 9 personnel injured
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    Radicals ?

    "My son's only fault was that he spoke about the Prophet," the father said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Can't say.
    The spoilers are..

    China
    Hong Kong (yes they get a vote too)
    Malaysia
    Turkey

    GCC gets a vote but we don't know as yet which way it will go.

    We will leave this to Indian diplomacy to sort out. There is one point in favour.

    If Pakistan cannot satisfy 25 out of 27 conditions then how can they possibly get away ?

    Do the spoilers just say its purely a political exercise with no merit and then vote against...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Radicals ?
    Radicals in Pakistan are an extension of the Pakistan Army. Look at the bigger picture. He was a blogger known to criticise the PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    The spoilers are..

    China
    Hong Kong (yes they get a vote too)
    Malaysia
    Turkey

    GCC gets a vote but we don't know as yet which way it will go.

    We will leave this to Indian diplomacy to sort out. There is one point in favour.

    If Pakistan cannot satisfy 25 out of 27 conditions then how can they possibly get away ?

    Do the spoilers just say its purely a political exercise with no merit and then vote against...
    At the end of the day, it's a political decision. The Pakistan Army has to its credit many sins, but have always come out unscathed for decades. A decisive US President would have bombed Pakistan, but this is not even being discussed. Instead US leadership is mollycoddling the PA. What's there to talk to the PA? As if they don't know where the terrorists are being trained, armed, and sent from. All I have understood after coming to WAB is that everything in geo-politics and diplomacy is give and take. I don't know when will Pak become useless like Iran for the US to treat it as malignant cancer. That day is coming sooner than later, but I just don't know what will be the reason for that.
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    Terror funding main accused Zahoor Watali exploited J&K bank to fund terror acts

    The agencies are looking into bank accounts of Watali and other accused in terror funding case and how money was routed to them and then distributed for stone pelting

    Dawood Ibrahim's ancestral home in Ratnagiri to be soon put on auction

    This terrorist is done. Most of his properties in India have been sold off or auctioned. The agencies should go after his properties in the middle-east and Africa, turn him into a beggar like his hosts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Radicals in Pakistan are an extension of the Pakistan Army. Look at the bigger picture. He was a blogger known to criticise the PA.
    Reason i said that it because its happened to Bangla bloggers too. So radicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    At the end of the day, it's a political decision.
    Cannot say this as it robs the FATF of its entire rationale which is objectively evaluating on the basis of terror financing.

    To say it is a political decision is the Pak argument ie FATF is nothing more than yet another anti-Pak front.

    The Pakistan Army has to its credit many sins, but have always come out unscathed for decades. A decisive US President would have bombed Pakistan, but this is not even being discussed. Instead US leadership is mollycoddling the PA. What's there to talk to the PA? As if they don't know where the terrorists are being trained, armed, and sent from. All I have understood after coming to WAB is that everything in geo-politics and diplomacy is give and take. I don't know when will Pak become useless like Iran for the US to treat it as malignant cancer. That day is coming sooner than later, but I just don't know what will be the reason for that.
    Kinda like cops in any city know who the big crooks are and there is an agreement to keep the peace without going to war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Reason i said that it because its happened to Bangla bloggers too. So radicals.
    Comparing radicalism in Pakistan and Bangladesh is like comparing apples and oranges. Jihadism in Pakistan is nurtured and encouraged by the ISI with the active backing of the Pakistan Army, mullahs and madrassas. In Bangladesh, it is the Jamaat which is doing that, and those thugs are raided and killed by the Bangladeshi police and army, not the same thing in Pakistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Cannot say this as it robs the FATF of its entire rationale which is objectively evaluating on the basis of terror financing.

    To say it is a political decision is the Pak argument ie FATF is nothing more than yet another anti-Pak front.
    You can name it anyway you see fit, but the truth is that it's because of US leverage that Pak is still afloat. If US thinks enough is enough and decides to bomb Pakistan, which country is going to come in the line of firing?

    Kinda like cops in any city know who the big crooks are and there is an agreement to keep the peace without going to war.
    I don't know if your example is fit in this case. I wish the US leaves Afghanistan sooner. Then sends back a ton of missiles flying into Pakistan for both the uniformed and the mercenary army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Comparing radicalism in Pakistan and Bangladesh is like comparing apples and oranges. Jihadism in Pakistan is nurtured and encouraged by the ISI with the active backing of the Pakistan Army, mullahs and madrassas. In Bangladesh, it is the Jamaat which is doing that, and those thugs are raided and killed by the Bangladeshi police and army, not the same thing in Pakistan.
    I'm going by what father said. I'm not familiar with this blogger and cannot think what a 22 yr old says is so threatening to the PA. Attacking people like this has happened in Europe too. There was a Dutch movie producer that got stabbed some years back. Why ? talking about Islam. If it can happen elsewhere then very likely in Pakistan. It's curious the article suggested it was the army when the father contradicted that.

    You can name it anyway you see fit, but the truth is that it's because of US leverage that Pak is still afloat. If US thinks enough is enough and decides to bomb Pakistan, which country is going to come in the line of firing?
    Yes, they survive through American influence as they are considered useful. But how long can the Paks bank on that influence. Not at the FATF any more.

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