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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    Imperator is where we are headed, Trump has at least slowed that dreaded day.
    My god...you're serious aren't you. The guy says that president-for-life is "great". And suggests that we "give that a shot some day"

    And you think he's at least slowed down the imperium.

    Dude. What in the hell is wrong with you??
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    and that's not exactly the only time he's talked about how great autocracy is, and how he's besties with autocrats, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    My god...you're serious aren't you. The guy says that president-for-life is "great". And suggests that we "give that a shot some day"

    And you think he's at least slowed down the imperium.

    Dude. What in the hell is wrong with you??
    The word "detached" might work here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    and that's not exactly the only time he's talked about how great autocracy is, and how he's besties with autocrats, lol.
    During the cold war everyone was besties with autocrats at the expense of democracy in many countries. Made for a more stable world order

    If you had the misfortune of coming from a country that was important strategically or otherwise resource rich you were as good as screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    Imperator is where we are headed, Trump has at least slowed that dreaded day.
    In a way. Imperator was an acclamation of troops for a general who successfully lead them in battle. Given Trumps reticence to serve and age it seems unlikely that such an acclamation could be earned by him. Dictator or Tyrant is what I think others mean rather than Imperator. Augustus was Princeps politically basically meaning something "first Senator" in today's terms. Sure he was hailed "Imperator" too but that held no political position but was more akin to claiming that a general deserved a Triumph.

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    During the cold war everyone was besties with autocrats at the expense of democracy in many countries. Made for a more stable world order

    If you had the misfortune of coming from a country that was important strategically or otherwise resource rich you were as good as screwed.
    not personally admired, though.

    ie the quote attributed at times to either FDR, Truman, or LBJ was: "he's a bastard, but at least he's our bastard."

    now we have a President who openly admires the bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    FDR, Truman, or LBJ
    Nixon, not LBJ. And in all three cases in its correct version it was directed at the Somozas in Nicaragua. All three generations of them. I guess the - relatively common - LBJ attribution is because "it's gotta be a Democrat who said that, and of course it couldn't be JFK. Or Carter."

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