Trump's Economy

[astralis]

the main source of California's problems is that everyone and their mother wants to move there and NIMBYism is preventing organized, planned growth.

fortunately SB 50 is in the pipeline now, which if passed should alleviate a significant portion of the housing issue in the decades to come.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...fornia/604786/

tackling the housing issue will directly address both the middle-class getting priced out as well as the homeless issue.

[Wonderful Plans]

If only the rest of the country could be in as bad of shape as California. Break her off from the US and California is the 5th largest economy in the world.

Yea yea I know I know, I hear that all the time. What I also hear all the tike is that California makes $100b a year but its debt is $300b. (I actually looked up the numbers and couldn't find this figure but I heard many many times.) I also hear that business are up and leaving by the thousands and have done so consistently since around 2015. I also hear that SoCal is slipping into 3rd world conditions and will soon resemble Mexico so closely you couldn't tell them apart. Also, apparently L.A. is literally turning into a the worlds largest landfill as we speak. Trash is piling up in the streets and nobody is cleaning it up. Nasty.

You don't have to take my word for it I was just telling you honestly what I heard. As what I could verify here's one data filled article to start with if you want to check it out.

2018 Financial State of California (Released 9/24/2019)
https://www.data-z.org/state_data_an...ail/california

California was once a popular and beautiful place to live but now I'm not so sure anymore.

[Wonderful Plans]

correction: thats all the "time" not all the "tike"
There doesn't appear to be an edit button on this board.

[astralis]

What I also hear all the time is that California makes $100b a year but its debt is $300b.

uh...

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...et-excess-cash

yes, yes, what you've "heard". Trump uses this rhetorical tic too; it allows him to get away with a bunch of untruths or outright lies because of course none of it is attributable to him, it's just stuff that "he's heard".

[TopHatter]

correction: thats all the "time" not all the "tike"
There doesn't appear to be an edit button on this board.

You should see an Edit Post button next to the Reply and Reply With Quote buttons

[TopHatter]

uh...

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...et-excess-cash

yes, yes, what you've "heard". Trump uses this rhetorical tic too; it allows him to get away with a bunch of untruths or outright lies because of course none of it is attributable to him, it's just stuff that "he's heard".

Also, "People are saying"
And, "A man came up to me and said "Sir....""

[tbm3fan]

uh...

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...et-excess-cash

yes, yes, what you've "heard". Trump uses this rhetorical tic too; it allows him to get away with a bunch of untruths or outright lies because of course none of it is attributable to him, it's just stuff that "he's heard".

Funny I have lived in California since 1966 and have also heard a lot but in the end never saw any of it especially what so and so says he heard about SoCal...

[DOR]

That is your source a known extreme, and this one is extreme, right wing rag. Good to know for all future reference concerning your abilities.

Now to straighten it all out, for others, in simple terms Nestle, SA is moving out of Oakland and mainly Southern California due to heavy traffic congestion and the high priced housing and rental market. Wait how can we in California, the "West", possibly have increasing costs in housing and rentals if our economy is in a depression. I think I need an economist to explain how that is possible.

You called Econbusters?

When the buggy whip manufacturers discovered that their product was far less in demand than it used to be, they hired legions of lobbyists to defend their way of life. That is why the automobile never really took off as a personal transportation device.

When automatic switching exchanges began to be introduced, it was the 1919 Telephone Operators Strike that swiftly brought to a close that threat to the livelihoods so elegantly represented by Lily Tomlin's Ernestine. Millions of people were thus spared the aching necessity of dialing their own phones, and the entire concept of mobile telephony never even got off the ground.

Bank tellers rose up in force when automated teller machines ("ATMs") begin to appear in the 1960s. As a direct result, the National Cash Register Co was saved from bankrupcy, and today enjoys $7 billion in revenues.

Typewriters, floppy disks, the US Postal Service, wrist watches, and 6' long muzzle loading flintlocks are all essential tools of the modern man, thanks to the mindset that demands the early and instant demise of any and all innovation.

[DOR]

Yea yea I know I know, I hear that all the time. What I also hear all the tike is that California makes $100b a year but its debt is $300b. (I actually looked up the numbers and couldn't find this figure but I heard many many times.) I also hear that business are up and leaving by the thousands and have done so consistently since around 2015. I also hear that SoCal is slipping into 3rd world conditions and will soon resemble Mexico so closely you couldn't tell them apart. Also, apparently L.A. is literally turning into a the worlds largest landfill as we speak. Trash is piling up in the streets and nobody is cleaning it up. Nasty.

You don't have to take my word for it I was just telling you honestly what I heard. As what I could verify here's one data filled article to start with if you want to check it out.

2018 Financial State of California (Released 9/24/2019)
https://www.data-z.org/state_data_an...ail/california

California was once a popular and beautiful place to live but now I'm not so sure anymore.

After years of GOPer governors destroying California’s finances (Ronald Reagan, 1967-75), Jerry Brown (1975-83) restored fiscal sanity. This was followed by years of GOPer governors destroying California’s finances: George Deukmejian, 1983-91; Pete Wilson, 1991-99; and Arnold Schwarzenegger, 2003-11. Cue the return of sanity that is and was Jerry Brown (2011-19).

California’s $15.7 billion 2012 budget deficit became a $5 billion surplus by 2017.

California remains a beautiful and popular place, but please don't move there. That part of the country still has some respect for the truth, and tolerance for those who are not exactly like us.

[Ironduke]

Typewriters, floppy disks, the US Postal Service, wrist watches, and 6' long muzzle loading flintlocks are all essential tools of the modern man, thanks to the mindset that demands the early and instant demise of any and all innovation.

What's the replacement that's more innovative than wristwatches? The cell phone? You have to reach into your pocket, pull out the phone, turn on the screen, look at the time, then put it back into your pocket. Way more practical to simply look at your wrist. Takes a fraction of a second to check the time, versus a few seconds doing so on a cell phone.

Whipping out a cell phone to check the time is an inferior, more inconvenient substitute. It's like using a pocket watch, but worse.

[tbm3fan]

After years of GOPer governors destroying California’s finances (Ronald Reagan, 1967-75), Jerry Brown (1975-83) restored fiscal sanity. This was followed by years of GOPer governors destroying California’s finances: George Deukmejian, 1983-91; Pete Wilson, 1991-99; and Arnold Schwarzenegger, 2003-11. Cue the return of sanity that is and was Jerry Brown (2011-19).

California’s $15.7 billion 2012 budget deficit became a $5 billion surplus by 2017.

California remains a beautiful and popular place, but please don't move there. That part of the country still has some respect for the truth, and tolerance for those who are not exactly like us.

There are many, on a certain side, who liked to call Jerry a nut case or Moonbeam. In actuality Brown was fairly conservative with money both times in office. He always believed in having a good surplus in case of bad years. I guess those bad years were during Republican governors. He did it again before leaving office for his ranch and resisted the Legislature's call for spending more of the surplus.

[tbm3fan]

You called Econbusters?

When the buggy whip manufacturers discovered that their product was far less in demand than it used to be, they hired legions of lobbyists to defend their way of life. That is why the automobile never really took off as a personal transportation device.

When automatic switching exchanges began to be introduced, it was the 1919 Telephone Operators Strike that swiftly brought to a close that threat to the livelihoods so elegantly represented by Lily Tomlin's Ernestine. Millions of people were thus spared the aching necessity of dialing their own phones, and the entire concept of mobile telephony never even got off the ground.

Bank tellers rose up in force when automated teller machines ("ATMs") begin to appear in the 1960s. As a direct result, the National Cash Register Co was saved from bankrupcy, and today enjoys $7 billion in revenues.

Typewriters, floppy disks, the US Postal Service, wrist watches, and 6' long muzzle loading flintlocks are all essential tools of the modern man, thanks to the mindset that demands the early and instant demise of any and all innovation.

Thank you Dr. Spengler

[DOR]

What's the replacement that's more innovative than wristwatches? The cell phone? You have to reach into your pocket, pull out the phone, turn on the screen, look at the time, then put it back into your pocket. Way more practical to simply look at your wrist. Takes a fraction of a second to check the time, versus a few seconds doing so on a cell phone.

Whipping out a cell phone to check the time is an inferior, more inconvenient substitute. It's like using a pocket watch, but worse.

It's called a mobile phone, or "cell," Grandpa.
Ask a teenager.

[DOR]

There are many, on a certain side, who liked to call Jerry a nut case or Moonbeam. In actuality Brown was fairly conservative with money both times in office. He always believed in having a good surplus in case of bad years. I guess those bad years were during Republican governors. He did it again before leaving office for his ranch and resisted the Legislature's call for spending more of the surplus.

Whenever the GOPers go up against a middle-of-the-road opponent, say a Democrat (but, I repeat myself), they paint him or her as a socialist, liberal, progressive, or communist. It seems they can't tell the difference between people who oppose their neanderthal political tactics, and those who simply oppose their fascist ideology.

[Albany Rifles]

It's called a mobile phone, or "cell," Grandpa.
Ask a teenager.

I'm an Old and know what I call it?





My phone