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  • #46
    Serbian downfall happened during the WW1 when we lost 60% of our male population. Ever since than, it is on a decline. Its not that conditions are bad, its that our women prefer dinaroids, as usual and in modern times they have been indoctrinated by the "sex&city" ideology. That is why today, we are the European largest brothel.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
      In the advanced economies of Europe, the birth rate is low because it takes a long time to gain the education and experience necessary to have a secure, stable career, and be able to move out of their parents' houses, settle down, and start a family.

      Ben Franklin, one of the American Founding Fathers, went over this in a treatise in the 1700s. There are so many things he got wrong in the rest of the treatise, if you care to read the full text - but that being said, he was 100% correct in his observations concerning human population growth and birth rates, and even 250 years later, he's still right.

      Full treatise: http://www.columbia.edu/~lmg21/ash30...ervations.html
      There is a strong correlation between educated and low birthrates. It's poorer economies that have the higher birthrates

      This can be seen between the south and the north in India as well

      For some reason this doesn't hold in eastern europe. Russia is a prime example

      yeah, they're educated there but not doing too well

      The new world maintains higher birthrates with immigration. Higher birth rates are considered a net plus for a society as a whole. Trump or not.

      Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
      The r-type, IQ, psychology arguments you're making - come on man, people are people. You need to break out of this pseudo-science bubble you've created.
      He thinks the line nature vs nurture is a marxist slogan. People are not open books and cannot be programmed as easily as marxists think. Nature trumps nurture every time like the scorpion hitching a ride on the frog's back to cross the river and stinging the frog half way. It was in its nature.

      Hence r-types worship women and k-types worship fathers. All cut and dry and very neat

      hah
      Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 18:46.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Versus View Post
        Serbian downfall happened during the WW1 when we lost 60% of our male population. Ever since than, it is on a decline. Its not that conditions are bad, its that our women prefer dinaroids, as usual and in modern times they have been indoctrinated by the "sex&city" ideology. That is why today, we are the European largest brothel.
        The loss of male population is when women were considered more equal than earlier. They were just as good at working in armaments factories and in the UK got the right to vote in 1918 followed by the US in 1922. I think its around this time frame women got the right in many euro countries too.

        In the UK there was a curious qualifier, only women above the age of 30 were allowed the vote so as to equalise votes between men & women, this condition was relaxed a decade later.

        Lots of euro countries lost their male populations. What Serbia had to deal with was the 90s. A setback but one that is recoverable
        Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 18:48.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by citanon View Post
          This just happened again in China. 7 middle schoolers stabbed to death by a guy who wanted "revenge":

          https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/w...ool-knife.html
          And so Columbine plays itself out in other countries

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          • #50
            Dude is beyond f'd up. Most of the incel guys just complain on the internet. They do not go out and kill people, even if they vent EXTREMELY hard online. It takes a special kind of fucked up to kill people, even if you happen to be a depressed incel, too.

            All humans are k-type. Most of the extremely aggressive alpha-types have been bred out of the line. Obviously there is still some of that with us, because that's how you get sexual dimorphism and most likely the Cluster B personality disorders, but human guys are not anywhere near as big or muscular or aggressive compared to, say, gorillas.

            Feminism is definitely not an agent of communism, as evidenced by the fact that the anti-communist bloc is pretty feminist. Some leftist types embrace it because they like to attack traditional power structures, but for the most part the West just believes in individual rights (which includes women's rights as well).
            "The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood"-Otto Von Bismarck

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            • #51
              It's because of the internet :|

              https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/25/...alek-minassian

              Only a tiny percentage of incels seem willing to turn to violence or terrorism, and the movement isn’t a threat on the level of an al-Qaeda or ISIS. But it’s a new kind of danger, a testament to the power of online communities to radicalize frustrated young men based on their most personal and painful grievances.

              When we talk about “incels,” we are not talking about all men who are not having sex. Instead, we are talking about a specific subculture of people in various internet forums — subreddits like r/braincels, the cruel troll chat forum 4chan, and dedicated websites like incels.me.

              Beyond their shared frustration with not having sex, the incel community is not monolithic. Many of them are simply sad and lonely men, suffering from extreme social anxiety or deep depression. Some of these moderate incels actively police the extremists in their midst; in a sympathetic 2015 profile, the Washington Post’s Caitlin Dewey reported that some incel forums were set up to automatically delete any posts referencing the California shooter.

              But many incels have a much more sinister, and specific, worldview — one that the Southern Poverty Law Center sees as part of a dangerous trend toward male radicalization online. These incels post obsessively about so-called “Chads,” meaning sexually successful and attractive men, and “Stacys,” attractive, promiscuous women who sleep with the Chads. Both are positioned as unattainable: The Chad is the masculine ideal, one incel men cannot emulate for reasons of poor genetics, while the Stacy is whom every incel man wants to sleep with but cannot because they aren’t a Chad.

              Chad & Stacy

              But many incels have a much more sinister, and specific, worldview — one that the Southern Poverty Law Center sees as part of a dangerous trend toward male radicalization online. These incels post obsessively about so-called “Chads,” meaning sexually successful and attractive men, and “Stacys,” attractive, promiscuous women who sleep with the Chads. Both are positioned as unattainable: The Chad is the masculine ideal, one incel men cannot emulate for reasons of poor genetics, while the Stacy is whom every incel man wants to sleep with but cannot because they aren’t a Chad.

              It’s this embrace of helplessness, of their certainty of their own sexual doom, that makes the more extreme incel communities so dangerous. Instead of trying to support each other and work through their issues as a group, the incels in certain communities allow their resentments to curdle. They see the world through the lens of entitlement: They are owed sex but cannot have it because women are shallow. This manifests in a deep and profound hatred for women as a group, which shows up on a very brief scan of some of the more extreme incel communities.
              There is an entitlement streak going through this. Probably why you don't see it as much or yet in the developing world.
              Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 20:58.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                Oh its much deeper than that, believe me.

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                • #53
                  There is no such thing as an alpha male. Put 20 alphas in a room and I will show you 19 betas. A private, no matter how aggressive he is in combat, is not going to overrule a General.
                  Chimo

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                    The loss of male population is when women were considered more equal than earlier. They were just as good at working in armaments factories and in the UK got the right to vote in 1918 followed by the US in 1922. I think its around this time frame women got the right in many euro countries too.

                    In the UK there was a curious qualifier, only women above the age of 30 were allowed the vote so as to equalise votes between men & women, this condition was relaxed a decade later.

                    Lots of euro countries lost their male populations. What Serbia had to deal with was the 90s. A setback but one that is recoverable
                    No its not. In our case, the loss of male population was too big in order for us to recover for the second round, the WW2. Than we lost a million and thanks to the British help, thrown into the arms of communism. But that is for the autopsy thread, it will be juicy, with S.O.E. transcripts as desert.
                    Last edited by Versus; 27 Apr 18,, 20:39.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Versus View Post
                      Well, maybe sharia isn't such a bad idea

                      https://thewatchdogweb.wordpress.com...een-legalised/
                      No need for sharia. Local mosques do help people to meet up and here's the kicker, help them with housing as well. Not just mosques but other religions too

                      Since we have no social welfare that is comparable to the west, its normal for NGO's and religious institutions to try and fill the gap. In fact they've always done this, a testament to religions staying power in the east or south if you want compared to the west.

                      What state welfare did was weaken religion. Though the US is a nice counter to that idea which is more euro prevalent
                      Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 20:46.

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                      • #56
                        Chad's or Tyron's and Stacy's or Ashley's are archetypes created by mass media and than followed by masses. Its an ideology that uses trend or cult mechanisms to spread. In essence it is a super stimulus that creates super response and as such it is a mechanism used in nature by a bird named cuckoo. By laying its big egg in the nest, it creates super stimulus response in the host bird, which than neglects and reject its own offspring in favor of the cuckoo bird.

                        https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/25/h...ner/index.html

                        It is an agenda and incels are the reaction.
                        Last edited by Versus; 27 Apr 18,, 20:50.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Versus View Post
                          No its not. In our case, the loss of male population was too big in order for us to recover for the second round, the WW2. Than we lost a million and thanks to the British help, thrown into the arms of communism. But that is for the autopsy thread, it will be juicy, with S.O.E. transcripts as desert.
                          All i want to know is how does Serbia recover. Do you have any ideas ?

                          The Balkans has seen unrest since the 13th century. A lot of flux. Still around today and will be in another hundred years too ; )

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                          • #58
                            it’s not just individual women that these radical incels hate — it’s society writ large, a society that allows their perceived sexual oppression to go on. The sexual revolution, in particular, comes in for hate: They believe women being freed to make their own sexual choices, rather than being married off to men and made subordinate, is the reason women can choose to sleep with attractive men and ignore the so-called incels.

                            This is how inceldom becomes a political doctrine: They see themselves as a class, oppressed by a social system that’s rigged in favor of other men. One post on an incel subreddit compared their worldview to Marxism, with incels playing the part of the proletariat and Chad the bourgeoisie. The natural corollary of this idea is clear: If the root of the problem is an unfair social system, then there needs to be a revolution to change it.

                            This is where the idea of the “Incel Rebellion” that Minassian referenced comes from — sometimes called “Beta Uprising” on incel forums, a reference to beta males. There’s no centralized planning, no incel equivalent to of Osama bin Laden. There are just men on various online forums celebrating violence and forming a mutually supportive echo chamber that justifies harming others, especially women, in the name of the incel uprising.
                            So the incels are wannabe commies now ?

                            i thought it was because of commies incels got created.

                            “I do not blame Alek Minassian for what he did,” another poster on incels.me writes. “I blame society for treating low status men like garbage. There will always be more rampages because of the way society treats us.”
                            That poster is talking about the loss of dignity faced by this group. Any time dignity gets diluted you have a problem, anywhere
                            Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 21:23.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Versus View Post
                              All former Spanish colonies, all Catholics. Massive slave trade and massive enslavement of indigenous population. All below equator, predominant r-type selection and yea, all with strong tendency towards communism. Viva la revolution and other fables.
                              Do you notice the contradiction there ?

                              why would Catholics coexist with communists (!)

                              Not just Catholics, there is support for the left with Muslims as well. The commies in Bengal definitely benfitted from it. 7 frickin' terms!!

                              Another curious contradiction. I'd think the Muslims would be even more opposed to commies.

                              The communism practiced in these countries must differ from Europe
                              Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 21:35.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                                It's because of the internet :|

                                https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/25/...alek-minassian




                                Chad & Stacy



                                There is an entitlement streak going through this. Probably why you don't see it as much or yet in the developing world.
                                I'm familiar with the group. I don't particularly think of it as an entitlement streak, other than that they really want to date attractive women and don't want to settle. Then again, I wouldn't either.
                                "The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood"-Otto Von Bismarck

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