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  • #31
    Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
    Good God, this sounds like the 72 Virgins bit.
    Bingo!

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    • #32
      Or maybe they see lumpen proletariat in the 3rd world. Anyhow, my stance is that it is a communist agenda.

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      • #33
        $80 could have averted this tragedy. I wonder just how many jihadists we can avoid by simply opening a whorehouse.
        Chimo

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Versus View Post
          Ok, can we agree that the feminism is a weapon of choice for communism? Lets take it from here.

          My stance is that the feminism is a weapon of communism and that its main goal is to destroy traditional family by removing father figure and thus create children that are dependent (trough mother) from state. Without father figure, children have difficulties in forming identity and his lacking, leaves a back door for programming by the state and ideology. Single mom sons, in order to compensate for the lack of father figure, seek group identity, thus the neo tribal streak of communist ideology, while the side effect of being raised by a single mom is woman idealization complex. Thus two leavers of control are established, one is group identity and the other is women worshiping. Both leavers of control prevent formation of independent thought and personality, since they are conditioned by social and biological drives and urges, thus creating a perfect drone for the communists. Women on the other hand are liberated and worshiped by the men, which in theory should be beneficial for them and reduce their oppression. Problem with this communist utopia, is that communist blindly believe that humans are born as clean slates and that they can be programmed by the system and ideology. They are not so as communist pushed the agenda, attacking masculine behavior, punishing it and in the same time liberating women by giving them all the rights but none of the responsibility, they didn't counted on women's DNA embedded drives, such as Pareto distribution, hypergamy and hybristophilia which lead to men loosing their masculine traits and women rampant aggression toward men that are not aggressive.
          Father figure gets removed because the state puts him away because he committed some crime. A woman who was drawn to such a man then has ALL the responsibility of bringing up the children and if she is lucky has extended family and parents to draw upon. The state offers only so much and how much depends on what the political orientation in the state is. More left leaning means bigger benefits. Larger families means bigger benefits. I still don't agree that any woman would want to be without a man bringing up a family.


          As a result, the leftist men are discarded in favor of low IQ third-world population or anti social thugs aka the lumpen proletariat. Or in case that the communist knew the truth about female nature, they knew that their ideology will lead to women rejecting socialist men and that they will be attracted to low IQ thirdworlders, which than would prompt mixing and create perpetual social movement, perpetual revolution and change, which is also an communist agenda. Perpetual revolution, by curbing personality development, halting it and weaponizing youth by abolish them from responsibility. Just like antifa and sjw's and their perfect match, young jihadists. It would explain why after every terror attack there is a call for unity.
          How many third worlders go to former communist countries ? a lot less than non formerly communist ones. I think women from these countries are attracted to something different. That's all. They have this 'phase' and whether that lasts or not is up to them. I think its just experimenting. But if one looks at central & south america there is a lot of mixing.

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          Any connection ?
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          • #35
            Well the problem is that most men validate themselves trough women,aka they are dependent on women's validation. If that could be broken, tragedies like these would be diminished. Jihadists are a different ball game, they want power and for them 7.62 is the only solution.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
              Father figure gets removed because the state puts him away because he committed some crime. A woman who was drawn to such a man then has ALL the responsibility of bringing up the children and if she is lucky has extended family and parents to draw upon. The state offers only so much and how much depends on what the political orientation in the state is. More left leaning means bigger benefits. Larger families means bigger benefits. I still don't agree that any woman would want to be without a man bringing up a family.



              How many third worlders go to former communist countries ? a lot less than non formerly communist ones. I think women from these countries are attracted to something different. That's all. They have this 'phase' and whether that lasts or not is up to them. I think its just experimenting. But if one looks at central & south america there is a lot of mixing.

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              Any connection ?
              All former Spanish colonies, all Catholics. Massive slave trade and massive enslavement of indigenous population. All below equator, predominant r-type selection and yea, all with strong tendency towards communism. Viva la revolution and other fables.
              Last edited by Versus; 26 Apr 18,, 23:55.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Versus View Post
                Well the problem is that most men validate themselves trough women,aka they are dependent on women's validation. If that could be broken, tragedies like these would be diminished.
                This requires wisdom, something that is in short supply with people in their twenties. Or a support network. Family, if that isn't there, then community or friends. Aspergers syndrome will preclude these safety valves.

                Originally posted by Versus View Post
                Or maybe they see lumpen proletariat in the 3rd world. Anyhow, my stance is that it is a communist agenda.
                Is it a zero sum game though. Does women's empowerment necessarily have to mean a dimunition of male roles? This btw is strongly contested in India because people here see it exactly that way.

                it's amusing, you say you are not misogynist but..

                Well the equivalent a woman would say to be careful is that she is not a feminist but..

                To be a feminist in India is going to get you challenged sooner or later or worse by people who fear the existing patriachy will be dismantled. And they see it as some agenda to destroy society too without understanding what feminism is. Cannot use that word in India because its a bad word. yet they see women abroad being more independent and they like it and want it whether society tolerates it or not.

                There are matriarchal societies in India. Kerela is one example. Communists got hold of that state early on. Most literate of all states in the country. Just be clear that most literate does not always mean educated. Problem is its a beautiful place, tourism and the like but there are no jobs there so many go to the Gulf or migrate elsewhere. Economic development in that state is waay below its potential due to the politics. Trade unions and stiff labour laws mean opening a business in that place is a lose lose proposition especially if its labour intensive.

                Nagas are another, flirted with communists now and then but not to the extent of Kerela
                Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 00:20.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                  This is Toronto, hookers charge $80 for backseat service.
                  I've heard that nowadays, one just look around on the internet and get the phone number for the "service" provider. I've heard that this is a much better and safer alternative to "backseat service". I've heard they call this "incall" and "outcall", depending on whether one goes to her, or she comes to the caller's location, all by appointment made over the phone. I've heard that there's any variety of services offered, and niches to choose from. I've also heard there's no pimps one would have to worry about.

                  If that's not what one is looking for, I've heard one can also get Swedish/Asian/Hot Stone Massage, with no "funny business". I've heard one can get a couple hours for $150/200, and she comes right to one's door. I've also heard that she brings along all the necessary stuff to work with, such as oil, towels, and even music and candles to set the mood.

                  The Toronto Van Murderer should have been doing one or more of the above, instead of becoming the Toronto Van Murderer.

                  I believe one or more of the above would also be appropriate for anyone who is feeling deprived, for any reason, of companionship.

                  Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                  I wonder just how many jihadists we can avoid by simply opening a whorehouse.
                  In Iran, they made a moral compromise. Knowing that young people want to do what young people want to do, they have temporary marriages called nikah mut'ah. It's a legal fiction for hookups and prostitution, but it's a very pragmatic solution that I think helps alleviate a lot of the social pressures more morally uptight countries in the rest of the Muslim world face.
                  Last edited by Ironduke; 27 Apr 18,, 16:48.
                  "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                    $80 could have averted this tragedy. I wonder just how many jihadists we can avoid by simply opening a whorehouse.
                    "Draft beer, not people."

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Versus View Post
                      All former Spanish colonies, all Catholics. Massive slave trade and massive enslavement of indigenous population. All below equator, predominant r-type selection and yea, all with strong tendency towards communism. Viva la revolution and other fables.
                      What the heck is r-type selection?
                      "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
                        What the heck is r-type selection?
                        Every organism on the planet, in its DNA has two "modes" of operation, that serve as an adaptive strategy for survival. Those modes are r and K. The r selected strategy, stands for RATE of reproduction and K selected strategy stands for Carrying capacity. Those two modes are epigenetics and are activated upon birth although I think that they are activated during impregnation.
                        The r-strategy is activated when the resources that sustain life are in abundance but they are in a high threat environment. In that environment the best strategy for the species to survive is to have high rate of reproduction. Contrary to that K selected strategy is activated when the resources for life are scarce, in other words when the ability of the environment to sustain life aka to carry it, is a definitive factor that limits growth of one species.

                        For the r selected species, speed and numbers are everything and that leads to certain behavioral markers. R selected organisms are characterized by relative morphological simplicity, low intelligence, low investment in offspring care, low in group preference, relative short lifespan and early sexual maturity. Typical examples of these organisms are bacteria, insects, rodents, some types of fish and in general herbivores. Heard animals, that survive trough the strength of numbers.

                        For the K selected species its the opposite. The K selected species have more complex morphology, higher level of intelligence, strong in group preference, late sexual maturity and longer life span. Typical examples would be predators, such as big cats, sharks, wolves and humans. Those species have few offspring, have inner structure and hierarchy such as found in a wolf pack, have greater investment in their offspring, by teaching them how to hunt and survive. Also those organisms are territorial and have clear boundaries aka the hunting grounds.

                        In humans, these strategies are activated according to their living conditions. In the north, people are predominantly K selected due to harsh environment and they developed strategies for survival that prompt certain traits such as ability to cooperate on equal grounds (win win solutions), have strong in group preferences, have clear boundaries, higher levels of intelligence that allowed them to create complex systems and tools for survival, have higher intelligence and higher awareness of their surroundings. They have the ability to delay gratification and to plan ahead based on abstract thoughts (what if scenarios) and act upon those premises. Also being raised in the environment that has season changes, these people are aware of time and change.

                        Contrary to them, the closer you get to the equator, the climate is more stable and unchanged and that leads to loss of perception of time. The high abundance of resources that can sustain life, hamper the ability to delay gratification, because food is always present and the "live for the moment" philosophy accrues. Abundance of resources leads to low in group preference, lack of care for the offspring and the growth of population that inevitably leads to conflicts. That is why those societies are permanently unstable, obsessed with utopias and idealizations, aka prone to magical thinking.

                        Also the R selected humans are women worshipers while the K selected ones are father worshipers.
                        Last edited by Versus; 27 Apr 18,, 10:07.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Versus View Post
                          All former Spanish colonies, all Catholics. Massive slave trade and massive enslavement of indigenous population. All below equator, predominant r-type selection and yea, all with strong tendency towards communism. Viva la revolution and other fables.
                          Yeah but one major component is missing in the equation as with India

                          State support : )

                          Empowering women in these societies doesn't mean they can rely on the state and get rid of the guy. it means the family has more support because the woman can earn more

                          So there should be no breakup of the nuclear family but it still happens because some men are irresponsible

                          State support isn't just a commie thing, all parties like it because handouts equals votes and any attempt to do away with it in the west will have serious consequences. Actually forget the west, this holds true every where. Once you go down the path of social welfare there is no turning back. This attempt to equalise society by ensuring nobody is without basics creates other side effects.

                          Fortunately for developing countries this isn't feasible at the moment when only a mere 5% of the entire population qualifies to pay income tax. Still the state makes up in other ways where possible.
                          Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 18:41.

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                          • #43
                            Well, maybe sharia isn't such a bad idea

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Versus View Post
                              Every organism on the planet, in its DNA has two "modes" of operation...
                              I'm just going to stop reading right there.

                              In Serbia, the birth rate is low because the economy is terrible, and people don't feel economically secure enough to marry, have children, etc.

                              The problem can neatly be summarised as "I don't want to bring children into this world when everything is in such a terrible state, and I/we can't securely provide for them."

                              The r-type, IQ, psychology arguments you're making - come on man, people are people. You need to break out of this pseudo-science bubble you've created.

                              In the advanced economies of Europe, the birth rate is low because it takes a long time to gain the education and experience necessary to have a secure, stable career, and be able to move out of their parents' houses, settle down, and start a family.

                              Ben Franklin, one of the American Founding Fathers, went over this in a treatise in the 1700s. There are so many things he got wrong in the rest of the treatise, if you care to read the full text - but that being said, he was 100% correct in his observations concerning human population growth and birth rates, and even 250 years later, he's still right.

                              Full treatise: http://www.columbia.edu/~lmg21/ash30...ervations.html

                              Originally posted by Ben Franklin
                              Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc.

                              Benjamin Franklin

                              1. Tables of the Proportion of Marriages to Births, of Deaths to Births, of Marriages to the Numbers of Inhabitants, etc. form'd on Observations made upon the Bills of Mortality, Christnings, etc. of populous Cities, will not suit Countries; nor will Tables form'd on Observations made on full settled old Countries, as Europe, suit new Countries, as America.

                              2. For People increase in Proportion to the Number of Marriages, and that is greater in Proportion to the Ease and Convenience of supporting a Family. When Families can be easily supported, more Persons marry, and earlier in Life.

                              3. In Cities, where all Trades, Occupations and Offices are many delay marrying, till they can see how to bear the Charges of a Family; which Charges are greater in Cities, as Luxury Is more common: many five single during Life, and continue Servants to Families, Journeymen to Trades, hence Cities do not by natural Generation supply themselves with Inhabitants; the Deaths are more than the Births.

                              4. In Countries full settled, the Case must be nearly the same; all Lands being occupied and improved to the Heighth; those who cannot get Land, must Labour for others that have it; when Labourers are plenty, their Wages Will be low; by low Wages a Family is supported with Difficulty; this Difficulty deters many from Marriage, who therefore long continue Servants and single. - Only as the Cities take Supplies of People from the Country, and thereby make a little more Room in the Country; Marriage is a little more incourag'd there, and the Births exceed the Deaths.

                              5. Europe is generally full settled with Husbandmen, Manufacturers, etc. and therefore cannot now much increase in People: America is cheifly occupied by Indians, who subsist mostly by Hunting. But as the Hunter, of all Men, requires the greatest Quantity of Land from whence to draw his Subsistence, (the Husbandman subsisting on much less, the Gardner on still less, and the Manufacturer requiring least of all), The Europeans found America as fully settled as it well could be by Hunters; yet these having large Tracks, were easily prevail'd on to part with Portions of Territory to the new Comers, who did not much interfere with the Natives in Hunting, and furnish'd them with many Things they wanted.

                              6. Land being thus plenty in America, and so cheap as that a labouring Man, that understands Husbandry, can in a short Time save Money enough to purchase a Piece of new Land sufficient for a Plantation, whereon he may subsist a Family; such are not afraid to marry; for if they even look far enough forward to consider how their Children when grown up are to be provided for, they see that more Land is to be had at Rates equally easy, all Circumstances considered.

                              7. Hence Marriages in America are more general, and more generally early, than in Europe. And if it is reckoned there, that there is but one Marriage per Annum among 100 Persons, perhaps we may here reckon two; and if in Europe they have but 4 Births to a Marriage (many of their Marriages being late) we may here reckon 8, of which if one half grow up, and our Marriages are made, reckoning one with another 20 Years of Age, our People must at least be doubled every 20 Years.

                              8. But notwithstanding this Increase, so vast is the Territory of North-America, that it will require many Ages to settle fully; and till it is fully settled, Labour will never be cheap here, where no Man continues long a Labourer for others, but gets a Plantation of his own, no Man continues long a Journeyman to a Trade, but goes among those new Settlers, and sets up for himself, etc. Hence Labour is no cheaper now, in Pennsylvania, than it was 30 Years ago, tho' so many Thousand labouring People have been imported.
                              Last edited by Ironduke; 27 Apr 18,, 17:03.
                              "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                              • #45
                                This just happened again in China. 7 middle schoolers stabbed to death by a guy who wanted "revenge":

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/w...ool-knife.html

                                BEIJING — A man wielding a knife killed seven children and injured a dozen others outside a middle school in central China on Friday, the authorities said, in one of the worst attacks at a Chinese school in recent years.

                                The incident took place shortly after 6 p.m., officials said, as students were being dismissed at the Mizhi County No. 3 Middle School in Shaanxi Province, about 500 miles southwest of Beijing.

                                The police said they had taken into custody a suspect, a man with the surname Zhao, born in 1990. They said the man was a graduate of the middle school and that he had told police he was seeking revenge because he was bullied during his time there.

                                “He attacked students because he hated the students there,” said a statement by the Mizhi County police posted on Weibo, a popular microblogging site.

                                Videos and images posted online by witnesses showed bodies spread along alleyways. Residents rushed for assistance, carrying the injured in their arms. “Hurry up, hurry up, call for help!” a woman shouted in one video. The police said the dead included five girls and two boys.

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