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    This thing with Incels and manosphere in general is a deep social and cultural problem and it shouldn't be viewed as "inability to get laid" phenomenon. It is a much much deeper and serous thing than that. As for me, I still stand on the position that it is one of many forms of communist attack on the West and US in particular and that it should be seen as a threat, from multiple perspectives and angles. The communist directive goes as follows:

    1. Empower women, by showering them with grants, programs, free money in essence and abolishing them from responsibility.
    2. Destroy masculinity in the name of patriarchy oppression.

    This is the gender policy that serves as an weapon to destroy family nucleus.

    Without family and without guidance principles, youth is left on its own and prone to ideological indoctrination aka communist brain washing. Thus you will get leftist voters, antifas and sjws. Than impose thought control and censorship trough political correctness.

    3. Introduction of migration, especially from the most radical and lowest IQ population, which ensures votes and serves as buffer against domestic population in the case of rebellion. Without values to uphold and without guidance from parental care, the K type people will vanish and replaced with heard like, r type collectivist groups/societies ensuring the communist rein forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XLAdept View Post
    Hi Versus,

    I'm glad you're back!
    Thanks, I will post more as the workload reduces on the home front.

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    The thing is, this is the crisis of the society. It shows deep cracks within it and those cracks are created by leftists and communists aka liberals. Their destructive policies will continue to erode the very foundations of society until society collapses. Their embrace of violent groups and culture is normal, communists have "natural" affinity with the criminal and anti social behavior in general, but not because they are rebels and believe in the cause and/or ideology. Being r selected, the morphology of their brain is such that amygdala is smaller. This means that their capability of recognizing threats is severely reduced and their desire for novelty seeking is higher than normal. Conservative societies that stick to their rules and paths, don't offer much divergence from the path and that makes leftists oppressed, because their brain cannot cope with it, due to smaller amygdala. They literary cannot understand rules and with them, the order.

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    But, how do you explain the fact that they are control freaks and want always more regulations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versus View Post
    This thing with Incels and manosphere in general is a deep social and cultural problem and it shouldn't be viewed as "inability to get laid" phenomenon. It is a much much deeper and serous thing than that. As for me, I still stand on the position that it is one of many forms of communist attack on the West and US in particular and that it should be seen as a threat, from multiple perspectives and angles. The communist directive goes as follows:

    1. Empower women, by showering them with grants, programs, free money in essence and abolishing them from responsibility.
    2. Destroy masculinity in the name of patriarchy oppression.

    This is the gender policy that serves as an weapon to destroy family nucleus.

    Without family and without guidance principles, youth is left on its own and prone to ideological indoctrination aka communist brain washing. Thus you will get leftist voters, antifas and sjws. Than impose thought control and censorship trough political correctness.

    3. Introduction of migration, especially from the most radical and lowest IQ population, which ensures votes and serves as buffer against domestic population in the case of rebellion. Without values to uphold and without guidance from parental care, the K type people will vanish and replaced with heard like, r type collectivist groups/societies ensuring the communist rein forever.
    The world's biggest Communist powers were far from being pioneers of progressive gender role liberalization, and the evolution of modern feminist theory is heavily grounded in Western philosophy, so I don't understand how the feminist movement is Communist, at least in the sense of the Soviets. The remaining Communist nations in the world continue to disadvantage women to higher degrees than their Western counterparts.

    Your fear of a Communist takeover using feminism as a "Trojan Horse" just does not make sense from a view of parsimony either. Hypothetically if I were a Commie, I would have a much, much, MUCH easier time exploiting wealth inequality and race relations as a way of spreading my ideology because these concepts are much less abstract than feminism. Everybody can instantly relate to the dilemma of having no money. Everybody can instantly relate to people judging you solely on the stereotypes of your race/ethnicity. The relatively abstract concepts behind modern feminism make it inherently harder to communicate to the masses, specifically the 50% of people that aren't women, so it is not an ideal movement to found a literal shooting revolution under.

    You describe the "death" of the nuclear family to be the doing of Communist ideology, when it is more a hybrid of Capitalist and Malthusian theory. Simply put, the more people there are in a country, the most expensive things get. The more expensive things get, the less likely people of younger generations will have big families, or even consider the idea of conventional families at all. Ostensibly, the resulting population decline would lead to lower overall resource consumption, which would follow a universal drop in expenses. A generational self-correction, in the face of increased natural resource strain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XLAdept View Post
    But, how do you explain the fact that they are control freaks and want always more regulations?
    It is a paradox of cognitive dissonance that plagues their thinking. Being unable to recognize threats, aka to distinguish them, they have two options, either everything is a threat or nothing is a threat. So the paradox accrues, because in order to make utopia where there are no threats, they need to control everything. Their control freakery is freedom to their way of thinking, because they see themselves as good and if everything is controlled by the good, than everything will be good and thus utopia will be achieved. Since the primary object of their interest is the lowest common denominator, they always need more and more laws because the lowest common denominator always get pushed lower the minute it gets regulated and it is always out of the reach.
    For example, if you want to make men and women equal, you do so and they are equal. Two sexes two laws. But than you have problem with men and women whom are straight and gay, so you make another division and you have four laws, for straight and gay men and straight and gay women. But than there are trans gender men and women, so laws multiply like crazy in order to cater to every whim and pathology that human mind can conjure and like a black hole formation theory goes, once the the matter is crammed to Schwarzschild radius, its game over man.

    There is a threshold, limit to things and leftist cannot grasp the notion of threshold and thus everything they create is doomed from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Team View Post
    The world's biggest Communist powers were far from being pioneers of progressive gender role liberalization, and the evolution of modern feminist theory is heavily grounded in Western philosophy, so I don't understand how the feminist movement is Communist, at least in the sense of the Soviets. The remaining Communist nations in the world continue to disadvantage women to higher degrees than their Western counterparts.

    Your fear of a Communist takeover using feminism as a "Trojan Horse" just does not make sense from a view of parsimony either. Hypothetically if I were a Commie, I would have a much, much, MUCH easier time exploiting wealth inequality and race relations as a way of spreading my ideology because these concepts are much less abstract than feminism. Everybody can instantly relate to the dilemma of having no money. Everybody can instantly relate to people judging you solely on the stereotypes of your race/ethnicity. The relatively abstract concepts behind modern feminism make it inherently harder to communicate to the masses, specifically the 50% of people that aren't women, so it is not an ideal movement to found a literal shooting revolution under.

    You describe the "death" of the nuclear family to be the doing of Communist ideology, when it is more a hybrid of Capitalist and Malthusian theory. Simply put, the more people there are in a country, the most expensive things get. The more expensive things get, the less likely people of younger generations will have big families, or even consider the idea of conventional families at all. Ostensibly, the resulting population decline would lead to lower overall resource consumption, which would follow a universal drop in expenses. A generational self-correction, in the face of increased natural resource strain.
    If you have a billionaire that has a 50.000 workers that he "exploits" and you want to take him down, the minute you organize communist syndicate and go for his money, he calls the police or mafia to take care of the communist syndicate. But if you get him the trophy wife whom divorces him, takes half of his wealth and than false accuses him of rape, destroying his reputation and business, it is much cheaper way to take him down. If they had kids, she takes them and than kids are rich as her and being born with that privilege, you take them to college where you indoctrinate them with SJW BS and voila, the next thing you know, they are setting up funds to save seals and feed the hungry and poor around the world, thus distributing the wealth.
    Modern feminism theory is grounded in a Frankfurt school, not in Western culture and Frankfurt school is very very tricky bomb to diffuse.
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