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    Voter ID Laws

    It's been touched on briefly on other threads, but as a major issue in our political discourse, I think it's very deserving of its own thread.

    My opinion: go ahead and pass voter ID laws, but only if two conditions were fulfilled. If a state were to pass a voter ID law, they must:

    1) make IDs free to all persons entitled to have one. Citizenship status and eligibility to vote can be indicated on the card itself.
    2) have vans available for dispatch with ID card making machines that will show up to any residence, anywhere, and make them on the spot. All residents would do is have to schedule an appointment via phone, letter (no cost to mail), online request, or ticking a box on the census form requesting an appointment. The DMV comes to you.

    Otherwise, it seems to me to be a 21st Century poll tax, especially given the extraordinarily low level of actual illegal voting.
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    Definitely. If one can find voter registration out in front of a supermarket then it should be just as easy to do a voter ID. Anything less is a blatant attempt to discourage voting which is what voter ID is really about. Cough, cough...

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    Here's another idea: make it a felony to vote if not eligible, and then don't worry about the handful of cases that are missed.

    Oh, that's right.
    That's where we are today . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Anything less is a blatant attempt to discourage voting which is what voter ID is really about.
    For a simple comparison, over here everyone is on the voter register - unless they moved within the last 3 months. And everyone votes with either only their election notification or their national ID card.

    If there's something in the US voter registration process that seems utterly alien to me it's the party affiliation, i.e. registering as a Democrat, Republican, Independent etc. To me that defies the basic concept of a - modern - democratic election.

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    Here's another idea: make it a felony to vote if not eligible, and then don't worry about the handful of cases that are missed.
    The Greek way - it's a felony there to not vote if eligible. Or at least it was 20 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    For a simple comparison, over here everyone is on the voter register -.
    Over where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOR View Post
    Over where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    The Greek way - it's a felony there to not vote if eligible. Or at least it was 20 years ago.
    That has been the case in Australia for almost a century. Voting is compulsory, even in local council elections. Personally I've always liked that. It seems to mitigate against political extremism, though that could just be us. :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    That has been the case in Australia for almost a century. Voting is compulsory, even in local council elections. Personally I've always liked that. It seems to mitigate against political extremism, though that could just be us. :-)
    To each his own. Personally, I don't feel a person should be compelled by law to vote.
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