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  • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
    What are the Chinese so afraid of ?
    Losing control of a buffer zone between the PRC a 700,000+ American trained and commanded army.
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    • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
      Losing control of a buffer zone between the PRC a 700,000+ American trained and commanded army.
      In what ways can this come about ?

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      • KJU saying fuck you to China because he got American, Japanese, and South Korean money.
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        • Right, my thought also was he'd flip somehow.

          How likely is that though ?

          Why choose one or the other is my point, keep all avenues open. This is juche

          Granted these are fears and even the absurd has to be considered

          This is the mirror opposite of chinese troops in NK in exchange for giving up nukes.

          KJU won't accept chinese protection but will put NK in a position to be squeezed by three others on the same team in exchange for giving up nukes

          Can Burma be an example here. Fell out with the Chinese but not entirely.

          Still retained its freedom to the point its biggest neighbours dare not say anything against
          Last edited by Double Edge; 09 May 18,, 20:28.

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          • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
            How likely is that though ?
            Looking back at the last 6 months, I would not bet against KJU being a pornstar if he could get money out of someone.
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            • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
              Looking back at the last 6 months, I would not bet against KJU being a pornstar if he could get money out of someone.
              So he's not afraid of rice shipment cuts anymore?

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              • Nobody signed nothing yet.
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                • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                  Nobody signed nothing yet.
                  How would you rank foreign countries' in terms of their influence on NK right now?

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                  • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                    Looking back at the last 6 months, I would not bet against KJU being a pornstar if he could get money out of someone.
                    The money will come for his backers if he's prepared to deal and he's signaling that. This part is not difficult. Enough say for a year.

                    Making real progress otherwise ? now that will take effort

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                    • Full article: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44134910
                      N Korea threatens to cancel Trump summit

                      North Korea has said it may reconsider attending a summit with US President Donald Trump if the US unilaterally insists it gives up nuclear weapons.

                      The highly anticipated meeting between Mr Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong-un is due to take place on 12 June.

                      It came about after North Korea said it was committed to denuclearising the Korean peninsula.

                      Delicate preparations are taking place for the Trump-Kim meeting, but this appears to throw it into doubt.

                      State news agency KCNA quoted Vice-Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan as saying that if the US "corners us and unilaterally demands we give up nuclear weapons we will no longer have an interest in talks and will have to reconsider whether we will accept the upcoming DPRK-US summit".

                      Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the official name for North Korea.

                      Mr Kim said North Korea "had high hopes that the summit would lead to the easing of the situation on the Korean Peninsula and count as a big step to build a great future.

                      "However, it is very unfortunate that the U.S. is provoking us ahead of the summit by spitting out ludicrous statements."
                      Full article: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44133308
                      N Korea cancels talks with South Korea and warns US

                      North Korea has cancelled Wednesday's high-level talks with South Korea because of anger over its joint military exercises with the US.

                      The North's official KCNA news agency said the exercises were a "provocation" and a rehearsal for an invasion.

                      It also warned the US over the fate of the historic summit between Kim Jong-un and US President Donald Trump that is scheduled for 12 June in Singapore.

                      In March, Mr Trump stunned the world by accepting an invitation to meet Mr Kim.

                      "We will both try to make it a very special moment for World Peace!" the US leader later tweeted.

                      The US state department said it was continuing to prepare for the Trump-Kim summit and that it was not aware of any changes in the North Korean position.
                      "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                      • Ah, now we have a data and a place to meet

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                        • Seems our MoS is in Pyongyang on a visit. Who knew

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                          V.K. Singh makes surprise visit to North Korea | Hindu | May 16 2018

                          The visit by Gen. Singh, and the secrecy surrounding it suggests that India is trying to quietly rebuild ties with the reclusive regime, ostracised by most of the world due to its defiance of UNSC norms on nuclear weapons. In the past year, India had joined the U.S. and allies in statements “deploring” nuclear tests and ballistic missile tests by the DPRK, although it had earlier refrained from similarly strong language.

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                          • Kim is playing Trump and Trump doesn't even know it. Trump wants this meeting badly and Kim knows it. Trump needs this celebrity photo op for his brand, his image and his Nobel Prize. Trump has already made one huge concession by giving Kim the one thing the North has wanted more than anything else, a high level meeting with a President no less. Now that he has conferred some legitimacy to Kim's regime what else is he willing to concede to Kim before any negotiations?

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                            • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                              Kim is playing Trump and Trump doesn't even know it
                              As I've maintained all along: A small child could play Trump.

                              In both senses of the word.
                              “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                              • It's a bluff on KJU's part. Otherwise, he would not have gone to China - twice. He needs sanction relief and he needs it fast. Trump has responded that he's not going to beg for a meet and MAX THUNDER has not been cancelled - by the South Koreans no less.

                                In fact, the more I think about it. What does Fat Boy got left? His only ace was nukes and that did not make him the power that he wants to be. His military is in shambles. He needs trade, especially with the Chinese. What's he going to do? Restart his nuke program? Spending more money he doesn't have?

                                The Chinese sanctions hurt and hurt big time. He needs Trump's ok far more than Trump needs a photo op.
                                Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 16 May 18,, 20:48.
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