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  • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
    The Kingmakers made their move. And they're now demanding payback. They want their money and KJU now has gone begging to the Chinese and a grand bargin sale to the Americans. The Chinese at least before continued to make money for the elite. No longer.
    There's another implication here, KJU lasted this long because the Chinese helped keep those elite satisfied. For better or worse China thinks its best to keep the dynasty, for now

    China's invested in KJU

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    • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
      I think for the first time, the Chinese are speaking with a united voice under Xi. Xi just got to be President for Life, meaning that he no longer has to fear someone new coming along to undo his work. He no longer has to make deals with the pro-Kim gang for their support that he deemed necessary. It's especially telling that KJU visited not long after Xi's cornation.
      Xi also just got shut out of the DPRK-USA-ROK dialogue. That isn't necessarily the smartest move, and may lead to problems.
      Trust me?
      I'm an economist!

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      • Originally posted by DOR View Post
        Xi also just got shut out of the DPRK-USA-ROK dialogue. That isn't necessarily the smartest move, and may lead to problems.
        Why do you say that ? Had there been no Xi meet before Trump meet what you said would be true.

        On the trip over to Beijing Xi would have told KJU what the red lines are and what is acceptable.

        Beijing is working in the shadows i thought

        The one feeling shut out right now is Abe though for the right admission price Japan can also join the list of countries soon to get a shake down : D

        Talk about bloody extortion...

        Update: If the armistice is transformed into a peace agreement by making a declaration to end the korean war then China as party to the armistice agreement automatically becomes a legal party to any peace agreement. So China is not shut out.
        Last edited by Double Edge; 26 Apr 18,, 00:37.

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        • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
          1. China is finally, fatally, fed up with the DPRK's antics. They tolerated the Old Man and his son. But the grandson is a different jar of kimchi altogether. Literally everything about Fat Boy is working against him.(Having a potential radiological catastrophe barely 60 miles/95 kilometers from Chinese soil likely hasn't improve the CCP's mood in the slightest.
          Man I hate being right...

          North Korea’s nuclear test site has collapsed ... and that may be why Kim Jong-un suspended tests
          “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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          • So what was a mountain on top of the test has turned into rubble and that's how the radioactivity leaks out. Wow.

            It can be fixed though by sealing the top with special cement

            The mountain’s collapse has likely dealt a huge blow to North Korea’s nuclear programme, Hu said.
            hah, what an auspicious turn of events

            So what made Kim come to the table. Who dunnit

            We had the Americans dunnit then the chinese then Kim himself and now its the mountain

            Hey, there's always Lop Nor but this is against juche
            Last edited by Double Edge; 26 Apr 18,, 00:32.

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            • Stupid me. I should have remembered the mountain collapse. The offer to not test is simple. They can't test. KJU is trying to get something out of nothing.
              Chimo

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              • There are other test sites in NK that can be used ?

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                • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                  There are other test sites in NK that can be used ?
                  None that are developed.
                  Chimo

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                  • A matter of time ?

                    I'm not seeing this development as the door shut on NK nuke testing forever

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                    • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                      A matter of time ?

                      I'm not seeing this development as the door shut on NK nuke testing forever
                      It's currently not in the budget.
                      Chimo

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                      • Quite the scene in pictures...

                        https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018...tos/index.html

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                        • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                          Just think - they're only about 100 feet or so from where the North Korean soldier who defected and got shot doing so several months ago crossed. Ironic.

                          You know, I'd have paid all of somebody else's million dollars to stand there while the SK President and LRM were holding hands, with Quad Whoppers and McQuads in hand, shouting:

                          Kim Jong-Un, komm ruber!
                          Wir haben viele doppelbrot mit fleisch uber hier!
                          Komm ruber!
                          Es schmeckt dir gut!
                          Komm ruber!
                          *



                          *He went to high school in Switzerland. Hence the German.
                          Last edited by Ironduke; 27 Apr 18,, 06:29.
                          "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                          • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                            Indeed.

                            Kim and Moon cross the military demarcation line together. Kim is the first North Korean leader to cross the line since fighting ended in the Korean War.

                            The guestbook message signed by Kim. He wrote: “A new history begins now. The age of peace, at the starting point of history.” Then he signed his name along with the date.

                            Kim kicked off the meeting by telling Moon they should meet more often. “As I walked over here, I thought, why was it so difficult to get here?” Kim told Moon and the South Korean delegation. “The separating line wasn’t even that high to cross. It was too easy to walk over that line and it took us 11 years to get here.”


                            The words.... Paju preparing for reunification...Is this recent or always been there?

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                            Mike's in better shape. KJU needs to go on diet
                            Last edited by Double Edge; 27 Apr 18,, 11:50.

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                            • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                              The guestbook message signed by Kim. He wrote: “A new history begins now. The age of peace, at the starting point of history.” Then he signed his name along with the date.

                              Kim kicked off the meeting by telling Moon they should meet more often. “As I walked over here, I thought, why was it so difficult to get here?” Kim told Moon and the South Korean delegation. “The separating line wasn’t even that high to cross. It was too easy to walk over that line and it took us 11 years to get here.”
                              People are usually polite when they're desperate for something like food and money.
                              “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                              • or luxury goods to persuade the elite not to fight him.
                                There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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