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    I left the navy as long time ago but I think my term is right-- Why did we ever stop 'dead-reckoning'?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/u...ards.html?_r=0

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    Report on the collision (McCain included)
    https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...-Collision.pdf

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    Holy Toledo! The McCain was damaged during it's lift, now the Fitz has suffered more damage too.
    https://www.stripes.com/news/uss-fit...ocess-1.499622

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    More heads are rolling and criminal charges are now pending.

    https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/for...ons#more-30635

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    From the story that thebard posted:
    Cmdr. Bryce Benson, former commander of USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62), along with three Fitzgerald junior officers, face a mix charges that include dereliction of duty, hazarding a vessel and negligent homicide related to the June 17 collision between the ship and ACX Crystal that resulted in the death of seven sailors, according to a statement from the U.S. Navy provided to USNI News.

    Cmdr. Alfredo J. Sanchez, former commander of USS John S. McCain (DDG-56), faces similar dereliction of duty, hazarding a vessel and negligent homicide charges for the Aug. 21 collision between the guided-missile destroyer and a chemical tanker off the coast of Singapore that resulted in the death of 10 sailors.
    Now I can understand the charges against the CO of the MCCAIN. He was on the bridge and contributed to the problem.

    Not sure I understand the charges levied against the CO of the FITZ. He wasn't on the bridge and his standing orders to wake him under certain conditions were ignored. His standing policies probably contributed to the accident in some way, but negligent homicide? Not sure if I believe that.

    And then a question for the group. Will these charges help make things better, or will they contribute to the zero defect, I'm afraid to stick my neck out in case I screw up mentality? How do they address the larger problems that the Navy is facing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    From the story that thebard posted:


    Now I can understand the charges against the CO of the MCCAIN. He was on the bridge and contributed to the problem.

    Not sure I understand the charges levied against the CO of the FITZ. He wasn't on the bridge and his standing orders to wake him under certain conditions were ignored. His standing policies probably contributed to the accident in some way, but negligent homicide? Not sure if I believe that.

    And then a question for the group. Will these charges help make things better, or will they contribute to the zero defect, I'm afraid to stick my neck out in case I screw up mentality? How do they address the larger problems that the Navy is facing?
    I agree. I'm not sure what 'negligent' homicide means though. Fitzgerald collision seemed mostly due to incompetence of the watch team so maybe that somehow brings the charge against the skipper.

    As for your question, I think it's similar to the atmosphere for police officers. They are always exposed to criminal charges coming from the armchair quarterbacks. You could be doing the best job you know how and then end up in Leavenworth.

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    Boy i wish desertswo and rusty were here to give their perspective.

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    Fitzgerald has arrived in Pascagoula.
    http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20180119-fitz.html

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    A couple of videos of her arrival

    http://www.wlox.com/story/37304443/u...th-mississippi

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