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    USS Fitzgerald collision

    The USS Fitzgerald was involved in a collision with a merchant vessel. 7 sailors missing, she is taking on water, how power but very little propulsion (3knts). USS Dewy, tugs and the Japanese Coast Guard headed to the scene. Captain has been relieved, XO is in command.

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    USS Fitzgerald Collision Update
    10:12am JST June 17, 2017
    By U.S. 7th Fleet Public Affairs

    PHILIPPINE SEA - USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) was involved in a collision with a merchant vessel at approximately 2:30 a.m. local time, June 17, while operating about 56 nautical miles southwest of Yokosuka, Japan.

    As of this time, there have been two patients requiring medical evacuation. One was Cmdr. Bryce Benson, Fitzgerald's commanding officer, who was transferred to U.S. Naval Hospital Yokosuka and is reportedly in stable condition. A second MEDEVAC is in progress. Other injured are being assessed. There are seven Sailors unaccounted for; the ship and the Japanese Coast Guard continues to search for them.

    Although Fitzgerald is under her own power, USS Dewey (DDG 105) got underway this morning as well as several U.S. Navy aircraft, and will join Japanese Coast Guard and Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force helicopters, ships and aircraft to render whatever assistance may be required.

    "U.S. and Japanese support from the Navy, Maritime Self Defense Force and Coast Guard are in the area to ensure that the Sailors on USS Fitzgerald have the resources they need to stabilize their ship. As more information is learned, we will be sure to share to it with the Fitzgerald families and when appropriate the public. Thank you for your well wishes and messages of concern. All of our thoughts and prayers are with the Fitzgerald crew and their families," said Adm. John Richardson, Chief of Naval Operations.

    "Right now we are focused on two things: the safety of the ship and the well-being of the Sailors," said Adm. Scott Swift, commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet. "We thank our Japanese partners for their assistance."

    For continuing updates visit www.C7f.navy.mil, and follow https://twitter.com/us7thfleet or https://www.facebook.com/7thfleet

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    Here is a link that contains tracking information of the container ship.
    http://gcaptain.com/high-resolution-...yer-collision/

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    Mishap has ominous tones...

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    Here is a link that contains tracking information of the container ship.
    http://gcaptain.com/high-resolution-...yer-collision/
    When the Navy board convenes to hear the testimony relating to this unfortunate event I hope that there was some unforeseen factor(s) that contributed to this accident being unavoidable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    When the Navy board convenes to hear the testimony relating to this unfortunate event I hope that there was some unforeseen factor(s) that contributed to this accident being unavoidable.
    Generally speaking, smaller vessels have to give ROW to larger vessels. A USN destroyer getting run down by a ship 3.5x bigger but only half as fast is bizarre.

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    Until we know where the collision occurred on that plat the answer is no. We don't know if those course changes were prior to the collision, or if they show her coming round to render aid/ search for missing sailors after the collision.

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    I wonder how long it could take a huge container ship traveling in a congested international shipping waterway to change its course...versus a state-of-the art naval 'destroyer' to do the same.

    Let's see ...starboard damage to USN Fitzgerald approx midships vs bow-port to container ship.
    Vessels give way to starboard side unless under sail.
    A major accident in an international shipping waterway at 02:30 involving a naval ship with state of the art radar and guidance nearing its Yokosuka base of operations is a major cock-up under any standard of review (IMHO , of course in advance of a board of inquiry. Jus sayin').

    RIP to any and all sailors that did not survive this collision. That truly is the sad part.

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    If the Fitz had an engineering casualty they may not have been able to maneuver. The larger vessel, having the right of way may have believed the destroyer would maneuver to avoid a collision and not done anything until too late. A large ship may take as much as 5 miles to stop, some sources state a mile per knot. If she didn't leave enough time to stop or maneuver it doesn't matter how high end your radar is, physics is in charge. A larger vessel may also make turns to bleed off speed, possibly making it worse if it was a last minute attempt in crash avoidance. Too bad Desertswo wasn't still with us, his read on this would be informative. On a sadder note,
    http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/D...-june-18-2017/

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    ◇ Visit USS Porter starboard side accidental collision with a larger commercial vessel in the Straits of Hormuz August 2012. Very reminiscent though seriously thankful that there was no loss of life five years ago.

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    Desertwo......

    Quote Originally Posted by DonBelt View Post
    If the Fitz had an engineering casualty they may not have been able to maneuver. The larger vessel, having the right of way may have believed the destroyer would maneuver to avoid a collision and not done anything until too late. A large ship may take as much as 5 miles to stop, some sources state a mile per knot. If she didn't leave enough time to stop or maneuver it doesn't matter how high end your radar is, physics is in charge. A larger vessel may also make turns to bleed off speed, possibly making it worse if it was a last minute attempt in crash avoidance. Too bad Desertswo wasn't still with us, his read on this would be informative. On a sadder note,
    http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/D...-june-18-2017/
    I miss Desertwo, ... he was a good friend...

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    reporting....

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    I miss Desertwo, ... he was a good friend...
    I could read his reports with vigor til the cows came home.... interesting man.
    My thoughts are with the families of the sailors who did not answer muster...
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    ACX Crystal ???

    The period of confusion has begun with the events surrounding the container ship ACX Crystal and the USN DD.....
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    That map kinda places the collision at least 150nm south of where it happened.

    Eyes straight north, peninsula with island next to it? Roughly halfway inbetween those.

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    USN has released some additional details.
    http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=101098

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    The crew navigated the ship into one of the busiest ports in the world with a magnetic compass and backup navigation equipment.
    ... and a tugboat guiding it while it towed them?

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    They found the missing crewmen in a flooded berthing compartment :(
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