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Originally posted by Toby View PostPoint taken, but some would say thats because the real power in the US is corporate
At the end of the day, Corporations have no hard power to enforce their wishes, they have to convince the US Government to do that on their behalf and they have to play within the US system rather than make their own rules.
Working in Public Health, we have the power to shut down any corporation in the city. If we declare an area to be under quarantine, law enforcement is obligated ensure it is enforced and no unauthorized personnel enter or exit the area. The corporate entity can try to challenge the order through the courts, and may eventually get it overturned, but if they were to try to challenge it physically the National Guard shows up with heavy armor and helicopters to make Uncle Sam's position abundantly clear.
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Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View PostCorporations have more influence in the US than in many countries due to their ability to lobby legislators for favorable policy. That said they don't hold the "real" power. Just looking at how corporate America responds anxiously to Trump's ramblings on twitter is plenty of indication of where the power truly lies.
At the end of the day, Corporations have no hard power to enforce their wishes, they have to convince the US Government to do that on their behalf and they have to play within the US system rather than make their own rules.
Working in Public Health, we have the power to shut down any corporation in the city. If we declare an area to be under quarantine, law enforcement is obligated ensure it is enforced and no unauthorized personnel enter or exit the area. The corporate entity can try to challenge the order through the courts, and may eventually get it overturned, but if they were to try to challenge it physically the National Guard shows up with heavy armor and helicopters to make Uncle Sam's position abundantly clear.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostA well reasoned explanation and yet the US president is let think ...hmmm could he be corporate???? I admire the aspirations of the American people and yet as with any system there are flaws to let the wolf in.
Now to see if he ever learns how to wield it effectively...
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Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View PostI don't recall Trump's antics on twitter affecting the stock market prior to his political ascendancy. His role in the US government gives him vastly more power than he ever had as Trump the corporate boss.
Now to see if he ever learns how to wield it effectively...
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Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View PostI don't recall Trump's antics on twitter affecting the stock market prior to his political ascendancy. His role in the US government gives him vastly more power than he ever had as Trump the corporate boss.
Now to see if he ever learns how to wield it effectively...
That said Market does fear the likes of Sanders or Bannon, if ever they were in power. Two very different people with two very different agenda, but bad for growth.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostDoes anybody?
Funny, though Riyadh calls Qatar a sponsor of terrorism (not a false claim). With US CENTCOM being based there, what does that make the Americans: state-sponsoring terrorism ? what the world has come to.
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Originally posted by xerxes View PostYes, the second in line of the Saudi throne takes him seriously. In fact, he took him so seriously that he architected the rift with Qatar. He missed the point that Trump is all about showmanship. First his never ending war with Yemen and now this. The crown prince wants to run without first learning how to walk. Good for him as he has aspiration, but his stance against Qatar will actually backfire as will his rhetoric of wanting to hit Iran. The lad is no Bismarck.
Funny, though Riyadh calls Qatar a sponsor of terrorism (not a false claim). With US CENTCOM being based there, what does that make the Americans: state-sponsoring terrorism ? what the world has come to.
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Originally posted by xerxes View PostWith US CENTCOM being based there, what does that make the Americans: state-sponsoring terrorism ? what the world has come to.
Paying rent for a facility doesn't give Washington's blessing to everything Qatar's Emir does. Then again, Germany has military installations in both Florida and New Mexico in the US, perhaps we should start talking about the "German sponsored US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan"...
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Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View PostDoes an American base in a foreign country make the Americans a sponsor, an occupier, or just a tenant?
Paying rent for a facility doesn't give Washington's blessing to everything Qatar's Emir does. Then again, Germany has military installations in both Florida and New Mexico in the US, perhaps we should start talking about the "German sponsored US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan"...
On that basis specifically that is not a good reason.
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Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View PostThen again, Germany has military installations in both Florida and New Mexico in the US, perhaps we should start talking about the "German sponsored US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan"...
They have training squadrons stationed at Holloman AFB and NAS P-Cola. These are Tenant Training Units under the operational command of the USAF
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Now on track to be actually bigger than Saudi Arabia:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKBN1F805C
Maybe OPEC should send us an invitation? :D
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Originally posted by citanon View PostNow on track to be actually bigger than Saudi Arabia:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKBN1F805C
Maybe OPEC should send us an invitation? :D
Whereas OPEC members oil companies are ruled by technocrats who have a habit of mudding the line between return on investment and national policy.
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