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  • i wish we had the old emojis back.

    instead of indulging in the conspiracy theory that the entire US judicial system is party-biased, perhaps you should ask yourself why is it that the GOP (as in the Party itself) has such issues with following the law.

    my theory is that the modern-day GOP started with the Nixon administration, including and especially its politicos and power-players. Roger Stone got his start then and literally has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. there were 55 criminal convictions in that administration. Donald Trump was hated by the GOP establishment and had to go picking the dregs for his campaign, and is a grifter himself to boot.

    so those type of scum whom started in the Nixon naturally gravitated to him-- Stone and Manafort most prominently. look at all the players getting picked up; all of them are in trouble because of grifting.
    There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
      Correct! A member of a protected (Democrat) class! Amazing how that works?!
      Protected? Sooooo....why didn't Trump take swift action against him on Day One of his Administration? Or Clinton? Or Obama?

      What the fuck was he waiting for?
      “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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      • I guess Trump is just a sucker.
        He failed to clean out the White House, the State Dept. the FBI and CIA and ambassadorships of political career types.
        Obama on his first day fired all ambassadors and replaced them with his political appointees.
        Trump was very ill prepared to do combat at so many levels and has been playing catch up.

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        • Obama on his first day fired all ambassadors and replaced them with his political appointees.
          that is untrue.

          https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/di...d-ambassadors/
          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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          • Most........ semantical point taken.

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            • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
              Most........ semantical point taken.
              Let’s all agree how fun it is to confuse news fakers with facts, and remember that old saw about feeding trolls.
              Trust me?
              I'm an economist!

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              • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                I guess Trump is just a sucker.
                He failed to clean out the White House, the State Dept. the FBI and CIA and ambassadorships of political career types.
                Obama on his first day fired all ambassadors and replaced them with his political appointees.
                Trump was very ill prepared to do combat at so many levels and has been playing catch up.
                Is there anything between those eardrums of yours besides noise?

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                • Originally posted by astralis View Post
                  pari,



                  this isn't a goddamn political chess game-- those guys are in jail for legal crimes and not political ones.
                  Of course. They'd still be in prison if they weren't in some way associated with Trump, because they couldn't help bring down Trump.

                  that's why Brennan and Strzok and Page and HRC et cetera won't be thrown in jail, because the US is not (yet) a banana republic.
                  When the spy agencies and police spy on one political party to favour another, that's the definition of a banana republic, and is why I still doubt the coup plotters will be held accountable. The US of forty years ago, they'd already be doing time.
                  this isn't China, the power you were hoping NZ could suck up to in 2012.
                  Because the liberals pivot to Asia/Pacific has worked out sooooo well.
                  https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R42448.pdf
                  Where precisely have you got with this, apart from causing an acceleration in China's paranoia and aggression?

                  and finally, there's no "we" here, as you aren't a US citizen or a member of the Republican Party.
                  How many times have I heard the 'you can't comment because you aren't [fill-in-country-du-jour-here] so shut up' spiel in the World Affairs Board?
                  Given that Trump voters make up roughly half your population, I'm not seeing a hell of a lot here. Why is that? Eric? Joe?
                  In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                  Leibniz

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                  • Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                    How many times have I heard the 'you can't comment because you aren't [fill-in-country-du-jour-here] so shut up' spiel in the World Affairs Board?
                    Given that Trump voters make up roughly half your population, I'm not seeing a hell of a lot here. Why is that? Eric? Joe?
                    I'm sure the board being broken for years without any updates whatsoever, not even working emojis, has taken its toll on both overall membership and new members.

                    Regardless, there are indeed WAB members that are Trump supporters but this is not a Fox News/Breitbart echo chamber for the brand of conspiracy theorist "alternative facts" Orwellian reality that Trump supporters traffic in. So when they trot out the same old tired worn-out Trumpian version of reality, it's not swallowed whole and parroted back with a knowing nods and bitter screeds about "draining the swamp" and "taking back our country".
                    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                    • Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                      How many times have I heard the 'you can't comment because you aren't [fill-in-country-du-jour-here] so shut up' spiel in the World Affairs Board?
                      Hehe, i've got that as well but know what this is a world affairs board and you get to poke your nose in everybody's business : D


                      Given that Trump voters make up roughly half your population, I'm not seeing a hell of a lot here. Why is that? Eric? Joe?
                      Yes, its is a mystery but consistent with the time there was an obama in office and i remember a certain Roosie being run out of Dodge

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                      • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                        Hehe, i've got that as well but know what this is a world affairs board and you get to poke your nose in everybody's business : D

                        Yup

                        Yes, its is a mystery but consistent with the time there was an obama in office and i remember a certain Roosie being run out of Dodge
                        Roosie still lurks ;-)
                        http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/sho...t=#post1030764
                        In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                        Leibniz

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                        • pari,

                          Of course. They'd still be in prison if they weren't in some way associated with Trump, because they couldn't help bring down Trump.
                          i have to say this tinfoil hat look isn't great for you. let me know when you come back to the land of the sane. the deep state can arrest some "pawns" as you call them, but not anything more? the deep state and the evil genius HRC couldn't knock off Trump? what type of crappy deep state is this?

                          When the spy agencies and police spy on one political party to favour another, that's the definition of a banana republic, and is why I still doubt the coup plotters will be held accountable. The US of forty years ago, they'd already be doing time.
                          yawn. somehow all those Trump appointees at the head of those spy agencies aren't doing anything to this so-called deep state.

                          come to think of it, i'm still waiting for Trump's tax returns, guess the deep state hasn't gotten to the IRS yet?

                          Where precisely have you got with this, apart from causing an acceleration in China's paranoia and aggression?
                          i'm sure kowtowing to China is the ticket.

                          seriously Xi Jinping is gonna Xi Jinping, it wasn't Obama or Trump that got him to start concentration camps in Xinjiang.

                          How many times have I heard the 'you can't comment because you aren't [fill-in-country-du-jour-here] so shut up' spiel in the World Affairs Board?
                          yeah, precisely zero times?

                          no one is saying you can't comment. what i AM saying is that your use of the word "we" is ludicrous because you personally aren't part of any United States "we".
                          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                          • Originally posted by astralis View Post
                            pari,



                            i have to say this tinfoil hat look isn't great for you. let me know when you come back to the land of the sane. the deep state can arrest some "pawns" as you call them, but not anything more? the deep state and the evil genius HRC couldn't knock off Trump? what type of crappy deep state is this?
                            I've done a search on the forum and I've yet to find anywhere where I've made the statement that leftist totalitarians are intelligent.

                            come to think of it, i'm still waiting for Trump's tax returns, guess the deep state hasn't gotten to the IRS yet?
                            Yawn

                            Yawn

                            i'm sure kowtowing to China is the ticket.
                            All the world is a stage Asti. Not only have we hosted one of their frigates, I've heard we've got rather good at finding their submarines.
                            seriously Xi Jinping is gonna Xi Jinping, it wasn't Obama or Trump that got him to start concentration camps in Xinjiang.
                            And there, we are totally in agreement.


                            yeah, precisely zero times?

                            no one is saying you can't comment. what i AM saying is that your use of the word "we" is ludicrous because you personally aren't part of any United States "we".
                            I'm 21st century conservative. After all, isn't globalism all about the breakdown of borders, hence international socialist? My very own beloved leader was in fact President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, so who could blame us for following on in her footsteps.
                            In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                            Leibniz

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                            • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                              Regardless, there are indeed WAB members that are Trump supporters but this is not a Fox News/Breitbart echo chamber for the brand of conspiracy theorist "alternative facts" Orwellian reality that Trump supporters traffic in. So when they trot out the same old tired worn-out Trumpian version of reality, it's not swallowed whole and parroted back with a knowing nods and bitter screeds about "draining the swamp" and "taking back our country".
                              How about the Chicago Tribune? Are they too echo-chamber-conspiracy-theorist-alternative-facts-Orwellian-reality?

                              When will the Washington media correct the record and publicly burn their sources in the Obama FBI, the intelligence community and the political class who lied to them for years about that now-discredited Trump-Russia hoax?
                              That hoax served as pretext for President Barack Obama’s FBI and CIA and others to investigate, and spy upon, the presidential campaign of a rival.
                              As if by design, the now discredited Trump-Russia story consumed President Donald Trump’s White House and our politics for three years. And from the fetid cauldron of lies and spin grew the wholly partisan Democratic impeachment of the president
                              The schemes and lies have been publicly exposed in the damning report of Inspector General (and Obama appointee) Michael Horowitz.

                              Now, U.S. Attorney John Durham is pursuing a criminal investigation. And the presiding judge of the secret FISA court, which gave the Obama FBI the warrants to investigate and spy on the Trump campaign, is publicly demanding answers.
                              But when will reporters who carried water for this crew of whisperers admit they’ve been lied to and expose the liars?
                              Lest you think only conservatives are demanding answers about the media role in the Trump-Russia hoax, think again.
                              Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept and Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone are not conservatives. They are of the left. And they are pushing for answers.
                              They note that some news organizations are beginning to question their reporting, but not quickly or loudly enough.
                              I don’t know what the rules of journalism are in Washington. I’m from Chicago.
                              Washington is too fancy for me. I’d get lost in that modern Versailles, a company town of smooth courtiers and Kemalist bureaucrats who protect the state from the people.
                              But in Chicago, if an anonymous source lies to you, and that leads to bogus reporting, if you’ve been used, you have an obligation to your readers, viewers and your craft.
                              You are obliged to burn them down and expose them for what they are.
                              The Russia hoax caused great damage to the credibility of institutions essential to a functioning republic, including the the FBI, the intelligence services, the presidency, Congress and, yes, even journalism.
                              Trump is no angel. He’s a transactional man, a dealmaker, a man of questionable ethics and disposition. And if there is any time journalism is required to cover and challenge him, it is now. But after three years of over-the-top cheerleading for “The Resistance,” and soiling itself in the Russia hoax, does the media have any credibility?
                              Reporters carried water for now discredited former FBI Director James Comey, and for now discredited U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, who served as the Democratic Inspector Javert of the impeachment, and many others.
                              So, who lied and who told the truth? Who spun political news stories that were believed as fact and became talking points for partisan jabbering?
                              And who from the shadows helped throw oil on the tribal fires of our national politics?
                              Some of the more witless pundits mock all this as mere conspiracy theory. Clearly, they do not read Taibbi and Greenwald. And they did not read the Horowitz report. They might have read the early partisan spin, the stuff mushrooms are fed, but they didn’t read the report.
                              Yet the chief FISA judge read it. She thought it was real enough.
                              Rosemary Collyer, presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, wants the FBI to come clean about the lies Horowitz found, the lies the FBI told the court that led to search warrants used to spy on Trump and his campaign.
                              The FISA court is secret, and I don’t like secret courts. But people I respect — people in the FBI and others who revere the Constitution — say FISA is an invaluable tool against foreign spy networks and terrorists who seek to do America harm.
                              Recently, Judge Collyer issued an order to the FBI to get answers. She called the FBI’s actions — as revealed by Horowitz — to be “antithetical to the heightened duty of candor” that government agents owe the court.
                              In other words, she called out the lies.
                              Collyer wrote: “The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”
                              Comey and his deputy Andrew McCabe, a TV pundit on CNN, acted as if they didn’t know what happened, and were stunned and dismayed that mistakes were made.
                              They were shocked, shocked.
                              They investigated a presidential campaign, but apparently left all the details to low level staffers and mistakes were made.
                              Really? Is it a mistake for America to believe in unicorns?
                              As Greenwald wrote in a recent piece in The Intercept, “The revelations of the IG Report are not merely a massive FBI scandal. They are also a massive media scandal, because they reveal that so much of what the U.S. media has authoritatively claimed about all of these matters for more than two years is completely false.”
                              In Washington, journalists attend formal dinners and literally sing and dance in musical skits to amuse the establishment ruling class.
                              They give themselves awards — including Pulitzer Prizes for reporting the Russia-Trump story — that have not been, as yet, returned.
                              They praise themselves and prattle slogans about how democracy dies in darkness.
                              But it doesn’t really die in darkness.
                              It dies by anonymous whispers, when the whisperers are never called to account, and are allowed to whisper again and again.
                              Listen to “The Chicago Way” podcast with John Kass and Jeff Carlin — at www.wgnradio.com/category/wgn-plus/thechicagoway.
                              [email protected]
                              Twitter @John_Kass
                              Source
                              In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

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                              • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                                I'm sure the board being broken for years without any updates whatsoever, not even working emojis, has taken its toll on both overall membership and new members.

                                Regardless, there are indeed WAB members that are Trump supporters but this is not a Fox News/Breitbart echo chamber for the brand of conspiracy theorist "alternative facts" Orwellian reality that Trump supporters traffic in. So when they trot out the same old tired worn-out Trumpian version of reality, it's not swallowed whole and parroted back with a knowing nods and bitter screeds about "draining the swamp" and "taking back our country".
                                Heh. Ya gotta admit, this explains things nicely
                                Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                                Mollie Hemingway?
                                THE Mollie Hemingway, celebrated right winger?
                                Politico described Hemingway as "a reliably pro-Trump commentator", while Salon called her The Federalist's "most reliable Trump defender.”
                                THAT Mollie Hemingway?

                                Yawn.
                                Now that is fucken funny, right there. Having corresponded with you before, I know it's not intentional satire but my word, thank you for the belly-laugh anyway. :-)
                                I must say though, functionality-wise the board is much better than it was a couple of years ago :-) Well done you.
                                In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                                Leibniz

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