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Looks like you've got an ally in Michael Gove Zara
Michael Gove warns Britain will end up with 'VHS economy' if it heeds business leaders over Brexit
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Originally posted by kato View PostSo... if it doesn't it's Betamax?
You're showing your age now, lol!
Betamax was the better tech at the time but didn't have the distribution that VHS had. Which is one of the reasons that SONY bought Columbia for any future format that it decided to put money into..least that's what I heard.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostOh look its Kato not Zara....
You're showing your age now, lol!
Betamax was the better tech at the time but didn't have the distribution that VHS had. Which is one of the reasons that SONY bought Columbia for any future format that it decided to put money into..least that's what I heard.
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Originally posted by zara View PostGenuinely no idea what you are rabbiting about now..
Betamax (a SONY product) was the superior product but VHS won the Market place as the Film companies chose VHS over Betamax as the format of Choice ...Which led to SONY buying Columbia pictures.
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My basic problem with the EU Zara is it supports globalisation, which is doing below zero for anybody not born with a silver spoon rammed down their throat. Long term its a lose lose for anybody with less than academic skills. Its a sure guarantee for the top 1% to keep hold of their wealth while employing Automatons/Bureaucrats to maintain the facade of democracy and accountability..i.e Government which leads me to the masses ...NUFF SED!
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England needs to just rip the bandage off and Brexit. It will be painful, but Trump will squarely side with them over the EU which will put England in a better position to get more favorable deals with the rest of the continent. If they wait until the democrats are back in power, it will be much more difficult as they will be playing both sides.
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Originally posted by rosspoons View PostEngland needs to just rip the bandage off and Brexit. It will be painful, but Trump will squarely side with them over the EU which will put England in a better position to get more favorable deals with the rest of the continent. If they wait until the democrats are back in power, it will be much more difficult as they will be playing both sides.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostI understand your point but doesn't Trump come from a corporate back ground? Corporations and globalisation are hand in glove. They're two sides of the same coin. The more I look at whats happened to the American worker the more I see the US becoming a feudal society. Those Jobs that were allowed to leave the UK and US aren't coming back. Pretty soon even the Chinese worker will be made redundant to with the advent of AI.
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Originally posted by rosspoons View PostLarge business and globalization are inextricable now. I read a year or two ago that the cost differential in producing in china and getting to the US marketplace as opposed to producing in the US and getting to market is down to about 7 cents on the dollar. Their labor advantage is being eaten up by other costs. It shouldn't take that much to give the UK and advantage in relation to US markets. Giving them more favorable deals on raw materials and agriculture outputs than the EU would get would be one possible avenue. Technology has always been disruptive to labor needs in manufacturing. Intellectual property rights will probably end up being the next battle front between nations though. I have read various estimates that have the cost of making an iPhone between $4-$11 but the licensing of the software, etc drive that cost up to a few hundred dollars per unit between the time it is made and the time it reaches your hand. Since so much of that money is aggregated into shell companies in countries with the more favorable tax rates, eventually the economic realities of paying for government and benefits will make action there unavoidable.
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Originally posted by rosspoons View PostLarge business and globalization are inextricable now.
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Originally posted by Toby View PostMy basic problem with the EU Zara is it supports globalisation, which is doing below zero for anybody not born with a silver spoon rammed down their throat. Long term its a lose lose for anybody with less than academic skills. Its a sure guarantee for the top 1% to keep hold of their wealth while employing Automatons/Bureaucrats to maintain the facade of democracy and accountability..i.e Government which leads me to the masses ...NUFF SED!
Farm labour, factory work, the service industry... These arent jobs brits are willing to do. taking the labour away wont raise wages, it'll just mean we import more. Perhaps the wages for tradesmen will go up, but that means less houses > more accute houseing crisis.
I just don't see that brexit solves anything, other than rubbing wounded national pride.
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